State of the Market

[Paralytic]

Good one yesterday

Role at MasterCard - suites my skills to a Tee (ok rate)

MasterCard put role to 14 different agencies, each is allowed only to submit 2 CV’s

Why was I not put forward I hear you ask

MasterCard wants someone with between 5 and 10 years worth or experience the agent told me

Meaning they don’t want anyone over 40

Logan’s run time

Sounds like BS to me.

[GhostofTarbera]

Sounds like BS to me.

Just telling what happened, ignore if you want IDGAS


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[eek]

Sounds like BS to me.

No - I can follow the logic:-

1) agencies only have 2 chances so they read the specification and second guess what the candidates needs to be to get the interview slot.
2) Agencies chose the top 2 candidates that match the agency's prioritised critera and ignoring others who don't match it.

Equally it shows you desperate agencies are for work - would you really spend time working on something when you have only a 7% chance of winning.

[CheeseSlice]

Good one yesterday

Role at MasterCard - suites my skills to a Tee (ok rate)

MasterCard put role to 14 different agencies, each is allowed only to submit 2 CV’s

Why was I not put forward I hear you ask

MasterCard wants someone with between 5 and 10 years worth or experience the agent told me

Meaning they don’t want anyone over 40

Logan’s run time


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You could quote the Equality Act 2010 and this being an example of indirect discrimination of age which is unlawful.

Not suggesting you try to make a claim but its good to let recruiters know when they're on the wrong side of the law.

[Paralytic]

You could quote the Equality Act 2010 and this being an example of indirect discrimination of age which is unlawful.

Not suggesting you try to make a claim but its good to let recruiters know when they're on the wrong side of the law.

I doubt you could argue (in law) that asking for 5-10 years experience is age discrimination. Asking for an upper range is a bit weird, but it could be, for example, that they have a salary scale that doesn't fit with 10+ years of experience. And, someone age 60 could still have, eg, 7 years experience in the skill and is able to apply.

Of course, the issue is that is almost impossible to prove any hidden prejudice a hirer might have - its always easy to say "wrong fit" and not "too old"

[hairymouse]

Equally it shows you desperate agencies are for work - would you really spend time working on something when you have only a 7% chance of winning.

Perfect example on Jobserve today, looks like the same role was given to 10 different agencies , each of which dutifully posted EXACTLY the same ad.

[Bluenose]

Perfect example on Jobserve today, looks like the same role was given to 10 different agencies , each of which dutifully posted EXACTLY the same ad.

Having had a good look at the market the only conclusion one can come to is that it’s a case of silent witness with the corpse being the contract market.

Paye/IR35 etc. is irrelevant at this stage, another quarter like this and we will start to see some agency desks go under.

[ruasonid]

You could quote the Equality Act 2010 and this being an example of indirect discrimination of age which is unlawful.

Not suggesting you try to make a claim but its good to let recruiters know when they're on the wrong side of the law.

Are you seeking to join a young, energetic, and passionate company ... etc.

We do not discriminate on grounds of etc.

[ruasonid]

I doubt you could argue (in law) that asking for 5-10 years experience is age discrimination. Asking for an upper range is a bit weird, but it could be, for example, that they have a salary scale that doesn't fit with 10+ years of experience. And, someone age 60 could still have, eg, 7 years experience in the skill and is able to apply.

Of course, the issue is that is almost impossible to prove any hidden prejudice a hirer might have - its always easy to say "wrong fit" and not "too old"

And other clients more closely matched the requirements (i.e. they are young).

[ruasonid]

Perfect example on Jobserve today, looks like the same role was given to 10 different agencies , each of which dutifully posted EXACTLY the same ad.

I've seen an ad running for several weeks. Yesterday I noticed an ad saying the recruiter has the sole rights. The other ads are still running.