State of the Market

[sadkingbilly]

- how do you envisage projects being delivered without PM's and BA's. By magical unicorns?

might be better, at that

[fatJock]

Powerpoint Monkeys(PMs) and Bullsh1t Artists(BAs) are a waste of time anyway.

Infra PM here, done many a DC relocation that would have been carnage left to Techs.

[malvolio]

Infra PM here, done many a DC relocation that would have been carnage left to Techs.

Yeah, best part of a hundred tears later and the coders and techies still think they are the key people in IT...

[Cookielove]

You are right that it's hard to stop companies offshoring. You can make them pay more tax but then they will just up sticks and move to a different country. However, successive governments could have stopped giving out visa's quite easily and then the real kick in the teeth is this ridiculous agreement with India that Indian workers pay no NI. This is totally unforgiveable to me and the more I think about it the more mad it makes me.

Yep 100% this, they could have stopped the Visas but the Indian workers NI is another kicker no wonder people are pissed off.

[sadkingbilly]

Infra PM here, done many a DC relocation that would have been carnage left to Techs.

got wrong techs then, or windoze DCs

[sadkingbilly]

Yeah, best part of a hundred tears later and the coders and techies still think they are the key people in IT...

I'm not crying.

[malvolio]

I'm not crying.

Nor should you. We use the skills we have to their best effect. obviously. On occasion I'm tempted to dig out my old ANSI 74 COBOL skills and see how I get on*!

Just acknowledge that all the other skills are no less critical. We're all here to service the business, after all.


Nice challengefor us oldies. Write a COBOL subroutine to test for leap years up to year 9999. You can't use a DIVIDE statement. Or a number 4...

[sadkingbilly]

Nor should you. We use the skills we have to their best effect. obviously. On occasion I'm tempted to dig out my old ANSI 74 COBOL skills and see how I get on*!

Just acknowledge that all the other skills are no less critical. We're all here to service the business, after all.


Nice challengefor us oldies. Write a COBOL subroutine to test for leap years up to year 9999. You can't use a DIVIDE statement. Or a number 4...

i don't do applications.

[fatJock]

Powerpoint Monkeys(PMs) and Bullsh1t Artists(BAs) are a waste of time anyway.

got wrong techs then, or windoze DCs

Wrong on all counts.

[Protagoras]

Just acknowledge that all the other skills are no less critical. We're all here to service the business, after all.

For those like me, "Service the business" is simply a means to an end.

The main objective is to extract maximum personal revenue for the minimum effort while hopefully enjoying it a bit.