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    #41
    Tell them you were a charity fluffer on Monsoon Poultry Hospital, when they ask for evidence, give them a copy of the DVD.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #42
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      Tell them you were a charity fluffer on Monsoon Poultry Hospital, when they ask for evidence, give them a copy of the DVD.
      That might work if you were trying to get employed as an MP, unsure whether it could help win you a contract
      The Chunt of Chunts.

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        #43
        Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
        Drivel.
        So it is their business that you spent a few months with your terminal mother/father/child/grandparent/whatever or you yourself were fighting a fatal illness?

        I don't think so.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #44
          Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
          More drivel.



          I wasn't arguing.
          Very professional, inteligent and helpfull answers. Congrats

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            #45
            Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
            Disagree all you want. Its there because people have been weak and acted like prospective employees.

            If people who want to call themselves 'contractors' want to 'jump through hoops,' perhaps they should look to go permie instead?
            Have you seen the hoops a business has to jump through to get on to and secure work through the government GCloud framework? Should they all go permie? Most entry points in to a company require hoops to jump through. Being a business does not mean they do not apply to you. Nothing weak about being faced with something imposed on by a company who are not willing to bend just because you think you are a proper contractor. As a sweeping statement put like that it sounds a bit ridiculous.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bee View Post
              After a sabbatical period I had a contract and I continue to have a couple of agencies asking questions about it. O lost the interest to apply for those agencies.

              Instead of asking questions about my skills, they have concerns about the break in the past!!!!

              They don't know anything about of being an IT Consultant.

              Sad world.
              You mixing issues up now. What agents and clients look for in your year off are completely different. An agent has concerns about your past as he wants to put the most suitable candidate for the gig in so it's a smooth road to his money. He puts three candidates forward that are all exactly the same except one has had a year off.... That presents a risk to him so he swaps out the year break candidate for another that doesn't. It's about him earning money. The client is bothered about the year out because of legislation, risk and possibly terms of insurances and so on. Exactly what we don't know but it's their risk model and they will stick to it.

              If you are the absolute best candidate for the gig and are notably better than anyone else then the year off won't make a difference. If you are Mr Average stuck in crowd of equals it will.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #47
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                You mixing issues up now. What agents and clients look for in your year off are completely different. An agent has concerns about your past as he wants to put the most suitable candidate for the gig in so it's a smooth road to his money. He puts three candidates forward that are all exactly the same except one has had a year off.... That presents a risk to him so he swaps out the year break candidate for another that doesn't. It's about him earning money.
                This also shows how carp the agent is as a salesperson.

                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                The client is bothered about the year out because of legislation, risk and possibly terms of insurances and so on. Exactly what we don't know but it's their risk model and they will stick to it.
                I've had a few months out do to various things and while one agent has had a problem, another agent has no issue at all for the same role. The 2nd agent is always the one who understands more of what skills they are selling.

                The client also has had no issue about these gap and doesn't even bring it up as long as I can pass their background checks.

                I do object to the checking for 28 day plus gaps as the evidence I've provided is a complete f***ing joke. Funnily enough the person sending the stuff to the screening agency tends to agree with me.

                Edited to say: I do always ask them what it is to show and on occasions have refused to give them the info simply because I've been drawing a salary from my company and I've given them my accountant's details to verify this.
                Last edited by SueEllen; 25 November 2015, 19:18.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  You mixing issues up now. What agents and clients look for in your year off are completely different. An agent has concerns about your past as he wants to put the most suitable candidate for the gig in so it's a smooth road to his money. He puts three candidates forward that are all exactly the same except one has had a year off.... That presents a risk to him so he swaps out the year break candidate for another that doesn't. It's about him earning money. The client is bothered about the year out because of legislation, risk and possibly terms of insurances and so on. Exactly what we don't know but it's their risk model and they will stick to it.

                  If you are the absolute best candidate for the gig and are notably better than anyone else then the year off won't make a difference. If you are Mr Average stuck in crowd of equals it will.
                  Thank you for your clarification.

                  Basicly it's a risk and we can't take sabbatical periods or the CV will be direclty to the trash.
                  What I don't understand is why asking questions and insisting about the time off, instead of asking about the skills

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bee View Post
                    Thank you for your clarification.

                    Basicly it's a risk and we can't take sabbatical periods or the CV will be direclty to the trash.
                    What I don't understand is why asking questions and insisting about the time off, instead of asking about the skills
                    I've just answered that.....
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Have you seen the hoops a business has to jump through to get on to and secure work through the government GCloud framework? Should they all go permie? Most entry points in to a company require hoops to jump through. Being a business does not mean they do not apply to you. Nothing weak about being faced with something imposed on by a company who are not willing to bend just because you think you are a proper contractor. As a sweeping statement put like that it sounds a bit ridiculous.
                      Honestly, you dont half chat some tulip. You sit on here pontificating all you want.

                      Many other people have been in the position you suggest you have been in, looking at the 'hoops.'

                      Have you ever run an independent business? One where you're not some psuedo limited, having an agent find you work?

                      Have you ever run a business on the high street which is cut throat? Oh, I guess you have seeing as you pretend to 'know.'

                      What was it you said a while ago? find someone WGAS?
                      I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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