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Employer Intermediary Reporting - Anyone digging their heels in?

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    #11
    As they say.. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 14 August 2015, 18:47.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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      #12
      Odd responses

      Originally posted by Pondlife View Post
      Of course they could just report the info they do have and politely inform the taxman that you refused to supply the missing data.

      Keep an eye out for the brown envelope and make sure your house is in order.

      Which bits of the missing info do you think it would take an interested tax man more then 2 mins to pull together?
      Haven't you just hit the N on the H? I think you're all getting confused by my stance on this - and why do you think I don't understand it northernladuk? - and I'm a little surprised by this as a new member of Contractor UK. Generally, the feeling I've found elsewhere is that most Contractors are up in arms about this.

      What bit of information do I think a tax man might not be able to find in 2 mins? None, of course. HMR&C have all the info on me they need. If they want to see if my house is in order and send a brown envelope they could do that now or in any of the last 25+ years I've been contracting.

      Similarly, the agency have all the information on me they need to do whatever it is they need to do as intermediaries.

      But what this reporting ruling means is that I have to give to the agency information they don't know or need so they can send it on to HMR&C.

      Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way.
      Last edited by Peej; 17 August 2015, 10:06.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Peej View Post

        Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way.
        DoB is only required if you dont have a National Insurance Number.
        "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Peej View Post
          Haven't you just hit the N on the H? I think you're all getting confused by my stance on this and I'm a little surprised by this as a new member of Contractor UK. Generally, the feeling I've found elsewhere is that most Contractors are up in arms about this.
          You are the only person complaining and there are plenty of experienced contractors telling you to do it. Why post if you won't take the advice that 100% of responses have told you to do?

          What bit of information do I think a tax man might not be able to find in 2 mins? None, of course. HMR&C have all the info on me they need. If they want to see if my house is in order and send a brown envelope they could do that now or in any of the last 25+ years I've been contracting.
          HMRC are haphazard at best and just imagine the outcry if they used out of date or incorrect info. What's the best option, just ask you again. Nice and simple. Not the most efficient but it's not hard.

          Similarly, the agency have all the information on me they need to do whatever it is they need to do as intermediaries.
          You can't assume this for lots of reasons. Just supply it again.

          But what this reporting ruling means is that I have to give to the agency information they don't know or need so they can send it on to HMR&C.
          They do need it to fulfill their new obligations.

          Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way.
          Your date off birth is already public. You give agency your limited company name, they check companies house and they can find you are a director along with your year of birth. If you have registered your ltd at home they can see you home address as well.

          You have the link of what the agency needs, make sure what they ask for is what's on that list and no more. If you are worried get the agent to send details of their data protection policy and then stop being a moron and give them it. This is getting tedious now.
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #15
            Just a thought, what did you say when the agency wanted a copy of your passport at the beginning of the gig???
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              #16
              Oh for heaven's sake... Read this http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...uirements.html

              It tells you what HMRC wants to know.
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Read this.

                How intermediary reporting requirements hit limited company contractors :: Contractor UK

                The problem is you are trying to throw your weight around when you don't understand what's going on. Remember your contract is with the agency. You have no arrangement with the client so they don't matter. You are effectively pissing off the people that hold all the cards.

                Just do it and move on.
                Spoken like a true agent.

                Boo

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boo View Post
                  Spoken like a true agent.

                  Boo
                  You mentioned this in another thread. What on god's earth makes you think I'm an agent for crying out loud. The fact you even consider this makes you look a complete pillock.

                  And you call me a troll... The irony is killing me.
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    You mentioned this in another thread. What on god's earth makes you think I'm an agent for crying out loud. The fact you even consider this makes you look a complete pillock.

                    And you call me a troll... The irony is killing me.
                    This is standard tulip from Boo. The majority of Boo's posts in the professional forums are accusing contractors of being agents S/he doesn't mind coming here for advice though...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
                      This is standard tulip from Boo...
                      Noted and warning issued.
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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