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Employer Intermediary Reporting - Anyone digging their heels in?
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Last edited by northernladuk; 14 August 2015, 18:47.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!
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Haven't you just hit the N on the H? I think you're all getting confused by my stance on this - and why do you think I don't understand it northernladuk? - and I'm a little surprised by this as a new member of Contractor UK. Generally, the feeling I've found elsewhere is that most Contractors are up in arms about this.Originally posted by Pondlife View PostOf course they could just report the info they do have and politely inform the taxman that you refused to supply the missing data.
Keep an eye out for the brown envelope and make sure your house is in order.
Which bits of the missing info do you think it would take an interested tax man more then 2 mins to pull together?
What bit of information do I think a tax man might not be able to find in 2 mins? None, of course. HMR&C have all the info on me they need. If they want to see if my house is in order and send a brown envelope they could do that now or in any of the last 25+ years I've been contracting.
Similarly, the agency have all the information on me they need to do whatever it is they need to do as intermediaries.
But what this reporting ruling means is that I have to give to the agency information they don't know or need so they can send it on to HMR&C.
Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way.Last edited by Peej; 17 August 2015, 10:06.Comment
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DoB is only required if you dont have a National Insurance Number.Originally posted by Peej View Post
Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way."Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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You are the only person complaining and there are plenty of experienced contractors telling you to do it. Why post if you won't take the advice that 100% of responses have told you to do?Originally posted by Peej View PostHaven't you just hit the N on the H? I think you're all getting confused by my stance on this and I'm a little surprised by this as a new member of Contractor UK. Generally, the feeling I've found elsewhere is that most Contractors are up in arms about this.
HMRC are haphazard at best and just imagine the outcry if they used out of date or incorrect info. What's the best option, just ask you again. Nice and simple. Not the most efficient but it's not hard.What bit of information do I think a tax man might not be able to find in 2 mins? None, of course. HMR&C have all the info on me they need. If they want to see if my house is in order and send a brown envelope they could do that now or in any of the last 25+ years I've been contracting.
You can't assume this for lots of reasons. Just supply it again.Similarly, the agency have all the information on me they need to do whatever it is they need to do as intermediaries.
They do need it to fulfill their new obligations.But what this reporting ruling means is that I have to give to the agency information they don't know or need so they can send it on to HMR&C.
Your date off birth is already public. You give agency your limited company name, they check companies house and they can find you are a director along with your year of birth. If you have registered your ltd at home they can see you home address as well.Principally here, my DOB. This may not be an issue for a lot of you here but believe me at the senior end of the job market, not having your age on things can be the difference between getting a contract and not. Currently, my agent knows nothing about me, my age or what I look like and I'd prefer to leave it this way.
You have the link of what the agency needs, make sure what they ask for is what's on that list and no more. If you are worried get the agent to send details of their data protection policy and then stop being a moron and give them it. This is getting tedious now.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!
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Just a thought, what did you say when the agency wanted a copy of your passport at the beginning of the gig???'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!
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Oh for heaven's sake... Read this http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...uirements.html
It tells you what HMRC wants to know."I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
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Spoken like a true agent.Originally posted by northernladuk View PostRead this.
How intermediary reporting requirements hit limited company contractors :: Contractor UK
The problem is you are trying to throw your weight around when you don't understand what's going on. Remember your contract is with the agency. You have no arrangement with the client so they don't matter. You are effectively pissing off the people that hold all the cards.
Just do it and move on.
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You mentioned this in another thread. What on god's earth makes you think I'm an agent for crying out loud. The fact you even consider this makes you look a complete pillock.Originally posted by Boo View PostSpoken like a true agent.
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And you call me a troll... The irony is killing me.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!
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This is standard tulip from Boo. The majority of Boo's posts in the professional forums are accusing contractors of being agentsOriginally posted by northernladuk View PostYou mentioned this in another thread. What on god's earth makes you think I'm an agent for crying out loud. The fact you even consider this makes you look a complete pillock.
And you call me a troll... The irony is killing me.
S/he doesn't mind coming here for advice though...
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Noted and warning issued.Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostThis is standard tulip from Boo...Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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