Where are all the winners today?

[Whorty]

Come on Brexiters, you won. Come and let us know how you feel today. As a remainer who lost the vote I actually feel quite dapper, so you guys must be totally elated.

[original PM]

Can you succinctly explain using only facts what has happened?

[WTFH]

To answer the title of your post,
Shearian won the 12:10 at Southwell and Assimile won the 12:40

For the 12:50 at Clonmel, I'd go with Notebook, although Ask Mary at 50/1 might be worth an each way.

[sasguru]

Can you succinctly explain using only facts what has happened?

No work it out yourself you cretin.
And if you can't, should you have voted in the first place?

[original PM]

No work it out yourself you cretin.
And if you can't, should you have voted in the first place?

A simply no would have sufficed.

[Whorty]

Can you succinctly explain using only facts what has happened?

• June 2016 there was a referendum. Leave won.
• June 2017 there was a GE. The Tories were voted in to deliver Brexit.
• November 2018 the Tories deliver a Brexit proposal agreed with the EU as they were voted in to do. Worth noting though that most Brexit MPs had already done a runner by now so the delivery was left to remainer MPs.
• November 2018, Brexit MPs have a melt down because their unattainable promises are impossible to deliver. Farage (not an elected MP) goes red in the face with apoplexy

Hope this helps?

You won ... you voted in the Tories to deliver Brexit .... they have delivered a Brexit proposal agreed with the EU .... rejoice in your victory

[original PM]

Ok thats good.

Is it possible you could just elaborate a little bit on

'November 2018 the Tories deliver a Brexit proposal agreed with the EU as they were voted in to do. Worth noting though that most Brexit MPs had already done a runner by now so the delivery was left to remainer MPs.'

E.g. the full details of what are in the proposal and why they are so bad?

[WTFH]

Ok thats good.

Is it possible you could just elaborate a little bit on

'November 2018 the Tories deliver a Brexit proposal agreed with the EU as they were voted in to do. Worth noting though that most Brexit MPs had already done a runner by now so the delivery was left to remainer MPs.'

E.g. the full details of what are in the proposal and why they are so bad?

I don't think Whorty said anything about them being "so bad", more that the politicians who convinced half the voters that Leave was a good idea have now stepped away from the process, shunning the responsibility, passing the blame, and possibly using smilies as the most intelligent part of their argument.

[Yorkie62]

Am I the only one who thinks this may have been TMs plan all along. For the first time last night she put 3 options on the table.

1. Accept the proposed deal
2. No deal.
3. Remain in the EU

As a remainer TM has played a corker. Deliver a deal so bad no one in their right mind will vote for it, as there is no hope of getting anything through parliament with the lack of a majority she has. The deal gets voted down so we are left with no deal, also not acceptable to parliament or stay in the EU. Hey presto she delivers what 48% of the people who voted in the referendum voted for (including herself) - staying in the EU. Blinding strategy...Or am I giving her more credit than she deserves.

[Whorty]

Ok thats good.

Is it possible you could just elaborate a little bit on

'November 2018 the Tories deliver a Brexit proposal agreed with the EU as they were voted in to do. Worth noting though that most Brexit MPs had already done a runner by now so the delivery was left to remainer MPs.'

E.g. the full details of what are in the proposal and why they are so bad?

I don't need to know the details (for the record, what I've seen so far is not bad, it's the best of a bad situation). In our democracy we have delegated authority for our government to act on our behalf. The Tories were voted in to do that. They have negotiated a deal that they consider the best for the country. I will have my personal say on that at the ballot box next time there is a GE.

Why don't you tell us, as a Brexiter who presumably voted Tory at the last GE, why you think your party has not delivered your wishes. Twice you have voted for this situation, twice you 'won', yet you seem upset. Who's the fool?