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No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

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    Originally posted by foolishboy View Post
    Only 11 cases taken to the tax tribunal in total since 2004?! Did I hear that right? If so my case(s) wont get heard in my lifetime!
    The 11 cases referred to alleged breaches of the DOTAS disclosure rules.

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      Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
      Tackling marketed tax avoidance schemes

      From yesterday

      Player

      Worth watching.
      Love the comment by Stephen Barclay? - HMRC don't act retrospectively
      Politicians are wonderfull people, as long as they stay away from things they don't understand, like working for a living!

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        Originally posted by portseven View Post
        Love the comment by Stephen Barclay? - HMRC don't act retrospectively
        3 Comments :
        i. With this thinking, this committee will soon outlaw ISA, tax free allowance etc (most likely retrospectively) so that people cannot avoid paying tax!
        ii. They should ask themselves about their own tax sheltering arrangements including all their so called 'expenses' scandals including property flipping... They would say they were within the rules!!!
        iii. HMRC's own officers have used PCS and other arrangements... get them 'retrospectively' as well...

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          Margaret Hodge

          Jesus..just watched that PAC meeting...I'm sorry, but she used to be a minister of the crown??? Thick as pig sh1t, biggotted, ridiculous woman! I'm amazed those guys, particularly McKenna, didn't advise her that he comments might be actionable! I'm sure Whitehouse will not give her such an easy time of it when they get an audience!

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            Originally posted by Britspud View Post
            Jesus..just watched that PAC meeting...I'm sorry, but she used to be a minister of the crown??? Thick as pig sh1t, biggotted, ridiculous woman! I'm amazed those guys, particularly McKenna, didn't advise her that he comments might be actionable! I'm sure Whitehouse will not give her such an easy time of it when they get an audience!
            She used to be Children's minister. Lives in Islington. 10 Richmond Crescent. Used to be next to the Blairs. Which was how someone as stupid as her got as far as she did.

            Quite a few threatening letters have gone through her door. I have no idea who did them.

            Though my favourite moment was when Jolly did this Fathers 4 Justice protester handcuffs himself to Hodge - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

            Jolly is a good friend - regular visitor at my flat a lifetime ago.

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              I almost feel equally frustrated for HMRC...Hodge is being completely stupid with them too!

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                Originally posted by Britspud View Post
                I almost feel equally frustrated for HMRC...Hodge is being completely stupid with them too!
                No fooking way!

                Yesterday I get a brown envelope like the sort HMRC send. As ever I nearly sh4t myself. Turned out only to be my driving licence renewal.

                Until Hodge repeals s58 she is totally fooking evil. HMRC are liars and deserve it.

                Not sure how much more of this I can take. Don't worry mods - I am not going to put it on here. Im just going to do it.

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                  Originally posted by marcuss View Post
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                  ii. They should ask themselves about their own tax sheltering arrangements including all their so called 'expenses' scandals including property flipping... They would say they were within the rules!!!
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                  They're in a lousy position for being judgemental, aren't they!

                  And I'm not too sure about the phrase "frustrate the intentions of Parliament", either. It strikes me as a cop-out whereby Parliament can distance itself from the responsibility of expressing its intentions precisely in law.

                  Is that an unfair interpretation? It does seem morally questionable that Parliament should heap the most incomprehensible tax legislation upon the UK population and then just say "Get on with it!".

                  It's all very well for the Committee Members to ask the first witness how he sleeps at night, but they weren't exactly falling over themselves to acknowledge Parliament's role in creating this mess.

                  Actually, I thought the first witness was making some useful contributions to the debate, most of which were airily, pompously ignored by the Committee.

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                    Originally posted by Disgusted of Coventry View Post
                    They're in a lousy position for being judgemental, aren't they!

                    And I'm not too sure about the phrase "frustrate the intentions of Parliament", either. It strikes me as a cop-out whereby Parliament can distance itself from the responsibility of expressing its intentions precisely in law.

                    Is that an unfair interpretation? It does seem morally questionable that Parliament should heap the most incomprehensible tax legislation upon the UK population and then just say "Get on with it!".

                    It's all very well for the Committee Members to ask the first witness how he sleeps at night, but they weren't exactly falling over themselves to acknowledge Parliament's role in creating this mess.

                    Actually, I thought the first witness was making some useful contributions to the debate, most of which were airily, pompously ignored by the Committee.
                    The Chair of the committee has faced some questions about her own tax arrangements.

                    Margaret Hodge’s Multi-Million Pound Stemcor Trusts Says £1.8 Million Shareholding is “Tiny, Tiny, Tiny” - Guy Fawkes' blog
                    Cambrian Dissenters: Costco and Stemcor - Trans Atlantic Tax Avoiding Hypocrisy

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                      Very interesting! I cannot stand these sanctimonious champagne socialists. Why dont they practice what they preach and re-distribute their own wealth before passing "moral" judgements on others.

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