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BN66 - Time to fight back: Continued

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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Agree with everything said - just to emphasize that by settle I think you mean get a CTD. Please correct me if wrong.

    In the abscene of a closed forum there is unlikely to be much info on here - and anyone who puts up anything useful is more of a nutter than me! Why give valuable info to HMRC/government/lawyers?

    When I ran my own legal case I had the advice of probably the best family law "barrister" bar a QC. I will never forget the look of my ex's barrister when he introduced himself - the blood drained from her face!! Anyway, he explained how much preparation goes into these things - and how you try to ambush the other side with rare facts. He was particularly good at that.

    How would YOU personally feel (this is a question to everyone) if you gave away information that caused us to lose. I know I would be totally gutted!
    And for anyone new to this thread, HMRC do read this thread...avidly!
    'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
    Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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      Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post
      And for anyone new to this thread, HMRC do read this thread...avidly!
      seconded. also the police were quite interested for a while...

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        How would YOU personally feel (this is a question to everyone) if you gave away information that caused us to lose. I know I would be totally gutted!

        I doubt we will ever be privy to information that could be useful to the other side. I'm sure MontP are aware that anything they share with 1500 clients could fall into the wrong hands.

        If HMRC are reading this forum hoping to learn something interesting then they are wasting their time.

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          Ok HMRC, here you are then, this is what you have been waiting for.....



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          Here is the information you have been looking for....

          The Top 10 Time Wasting Sites on the Net
          Heres the link.. http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm

          It did originally say the "Top 10 FreeTime Wasting Sites on the Net", but I'll guess you'll be doing this in our (the taxpayers) time.

          I especially like the "subservient chicken" game. It reminds me of us the British Taxpayer.
          Last edited by SantaClaus; 3 October 2008, 08:48.
          'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
          Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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            Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
            How would YOU personally feel (this is a question to everyone) if you gave away information that caused us to lose. I know I would be totally gutted!
            I'd love to think MP have a 'silver bullet' that will utterly kill HMRC's defense, but in all honesty, I dont think we need it, the simple facts of hmrc and the governments handling of this case are more than enough to hang them

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              Originally posted by silver_lining View Post
              Chaps,

              All the talk about whether JR is good, bad indifferent is pointless... and whether the UK legal system adopts judgements etc etc. There are too many wannabe lawyers running around doing R&D and I personally feel filling people with false hope and tearing it away in equal measure. With respect, it takes many many to get ones head around the legal technicalities; as such leave it to the experts. A little knowledge can be a dangersous thing.

              The facts as it stands are simple:

              It is now Law and therefore we are now liable to pay. Therefore you have a decision

              Trust the legal experts i.e. MP to tackle the question of legality OR settle (in whatever form that takes). It really is that simple.

              I am getting tired of speculation and rhetoric and like others, want useful confirmed information.

              ..and before you ask I am in scheme and I too am worried like everyone but I am trying to remain optimisic; but lets be honest and face reality; we are hanging on a small few peoples opinion/ interpretation of the law at the end of the day, so we have a chance.

              SL
              At last!!! respect to you Silver lining fro talking sense.......

              I couldnt agree more. I have kicked off with people here on precisely the same issue. Lawyers become lawyers through professional training not by self righteous speculation.........

              respect to you..........

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                Originally posted by ManureCreek View Post
                At last!!! respect to you Silver lining fro talking sense.......

                I couldnt agree more. I have kicked off with people here on precisely the same issue. Lawyers become lawyers through professional training not by self righteous speculation.........

                respect to you..........
                Thank you both so much for putting us to rights, we'll shut up now shall we.

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                  Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post
                  Here is the information you have been looking for....

                  The Top 10 Time Wasting Sites on the Net
                  Heres the link.. http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm

                  It did originally say the "Top 10 FreeTime Wasting Sites on the Net", but I'll guess you'll be doing this in our (the taxpayers) time.

                  I especially like the "subservient chicken" game. It reminds me of us the British Taxpayer.
                  OMG!!!

                  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

                  I HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO...AND NOW IT'LL NEVER BE DONE...!!!

                  The rest of the day has now been blocked out...for TIME WASTING!

                  btw the sand game is really cool!

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                    I think there's a bit of naivety (sp?) here about giving info away. MP were more than happy to present their argument for the scheme well before HMRC ever decided to take 4 test cases to court.

                    HMRC were aware of the legal argument MP were using and eventually took fright over its apparent soundness.

                    Im pretty sure MP would adopt the same approach to any JR or subsequent action they may take.
                    I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                      Originally posted by TheGadgetMan View Post
                      OMG!!!

                      WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

                      I HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO...AND NOW IT'LL NEVER BE DONE...!!!

                      The rest of the day has now been blocked out...for TIME WASTING!

                      btw the sand game is really cool!

                      bugger thought I'd waste last couple of hours here and its blocked!

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