Rates

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Still working on the ever expanding document that will be our response to the consultation on T&S (14000 words and counting!) and I could do with your help again. I have worked out that travel and subsistence costs have risen substantially over the last 7 years - 13% for fuel, 10% for accommodation and 24% for food but our figures show that, since 2012, rates have pretty much remained stagnant. I don't have figures for prior to 2012 available so I wondered if you'd be able to give me an idea of rate differences between now and 2008???

[eek]

Still working on the ever expanding document that will be our response to the consultation on T&S (14000 words and counting!) and I could do with your help again. I have worked out that travel and subsistence costs have risen substantially over the last 7 years - 13% for fuel, 10% for accommodation and 24% for food but our figures show that, since 2012, rates have pretty much remained stagnant. I don't have figures for prior to 2012 available so I wondered if you'd be able to give me an idea of rate differences between now and 2008???

I believe a typical c# developer has been on roughly £300-350 outside London since about 2002.. Rates haven't changed at all...

[Scrag Meister]

Currently at the mid way point of the high and low I have earned over the past 8 years, a spread of approx. 180pd.

Highs in my experience don't last long and get cut back, lows don't last long because I don't renew.

[northernladuk]

Currently at the mid way point of the high and low I have earned over the past 8 years.

Highs in my experience don't last long and get cut back, lows don't last long because I don't renew.

Scraggy!! How you diddling?

[cojak]

Currently at the mid way point of the high and low I have earned over the past 8 years, a spread of approx. 180pd.

Highs in my experience don't last long and get cut back, lows don't last long because I don't renew.

Yep, exactly my experience as well SM.

[malvolio]

My last gig paid precisely £16 a day more than my first one in 1996. A rough calculation shows that my average day rate has been around £50 a day above that original rate.

So no, on average I don't think average day rates have changed in the slightest over the years, and Banks, CLAS consultants and SAP-knowledge people apart (all paid more by around 20%, but that's the side-effect of closed shops), the industry average is pretty much what I've been getting.

However, the rise in permie salaries over that time has been pretty much constant; coders that used to get around £25k would now be on £45k pa.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Thanks guys - actual figures would be especially useful as I am comparing rates to costs - have worked out that hotel prices in London have risen about 30% between 2008-2015 and subsistence costs about 24%. Bet rates haven't gone up anywhere near that

[LondonManc]

Thanks guys - actual figures would be especially useful as I am comparing rates to costs - have worked out that hotel prices in London have risen about 30% between 2008-2015 and subsistence costs about 24%. Bet rates haven't gone up anywhere near that

Mine's varied because I've been taking gigs nationally but general going rate for my line of work in Greater Manchester area is £300-350/day and hasn't changed over that time. I think warchests, experience and getting into the negotiations of contracting properly help boost your rate but the rates themselves are no better as a general rule.

I know someone who was on £550 in London in 2008 and is again on £550 in London having had higher and lower rates.

[tarbera]

After the rate cuts, Lloydes and RBS for example people who worked for me for £450 a day in 2011 are now on £296 !!! That have remained at the banks

[eek]

After the rate cuts, Lloydes and RBS for example people who worked for me for £450 a day in 2011 are now on £296 !!! That have remained at the banks

If you are accepting a rate cut of 34% you really aren't valuing your skills or your skills really aren't that great.