Half-decent, simple UML type diagram tools?

[cojak]

No need to document anything, the code speaks for itself.

[eek]

By screaming abandon hope all ye who enter here - can you tell I spent all morning trying to find a misplaced parenthesis in a SQL statement.

[cojak]

I was just laughing at the thought of undocumented code (I know V was having a laugh ).

It's all lovely until someone is expected to support it in Prod - 'if you build it you support it' goes out of the window when Devs are expected to go on the rota to support their code and VMs.

"I've spent years getting out of Support - you can feck off if you expect me to go back!", say the Devs and their Leads in the DevOps teams...

[jamesbrown]

Chuck it over the wall, it's the agile way

[cojak]

Of course nothing ever goes wrong once it’s in Prod…

https://twitter.com/devopscats/statu...TqTpCiblQ7xU6Q

[d000hg]

Wow all this takes me back 20 years. Anyone remember Rational Rose and UML --> Code and Code --> UML. What a cluster **** that was.

I thought all this kind of crap went away with Agile DevOps. 4 minutes of design time, code and test in the afternoon and all done by the end of the week. No need to document anything, the code speaks for itself.

For new stuff absolutely But this is 20-year old code including layers and layers of improvements, fixes, and mysterious "because of Keith" tweaks. It has to work as it does now and nobody really knows what that is in totality.

[TheDude]

UML - now there is a phrase I haven't heard since before you were born...