Originally posted by WTFH
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Potential new contract asked for codility test.
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostI think it's like asking a builder to build some pointless walls quickly and accurately before you hire them. Most builders I know would laugh in your face or punch your teeth out if you did.Originally posted by d000hg View PostBut we're not builders.
Client references, testimonials , your company annual accounts. What else adequate clients do require from a business?
Is it normal for a client to test a supplier's staff before a contract? Nope.
OK. Being realistic, I have some skills and a client wants to be sure about my abilities.
But I am getting very upset when asked for any tests like an unproved graduate. Why? Because it is too inadequate for me.
The point "if you so experienced then it should be easy for you" is completely wrong for me. Any project is not like running for 100 meters, it is more like 10 km run.
It is like asking an experienced stayer to run 100 meters on a straight road as a test to select the best and the most efficient ones for a cross-country marathon. Simply stupid.
P.S. 30 minutes test? I will look for a coffee machine for the first 15 minutes and next 15 minutes I will setup a chair position.Comment
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It is like asking an experienced stayer to run 100 meters on a straight road as a test to select the best and the most efficient ones for a cross-country marathon. Simply stupid.
To a potential employer, less so, given the amount of useless, skill less, lying, chancing charlatans, on the contract market.
If you have ever performed any hiring duties, you would already know thisThe Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by billybiro View PostDo the council planners expect the builders to build this "sample wall" for free?
The planners don't pay the builder, neither do they care about whether the builder gets paid or not for building the wall.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostTo a potential employer, less so, given the amount of useless, skill less, lying, chancing charlatans, on the contract market.Comment
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostThe planners don't pay the builder, neither do they care about whether the builder gets paid or not for building the wall."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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BGCH? I told them I wouldn't do it, even though I'm overqualified. See:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140...ware-engineers
I bailed from a highly paid bureaucratic IB role (they wanted my personal bank statements) in favour of non-bureaucratic less paid role (0 references given). 6 hours of interviews, proof I'm not a criminal, still not enough to trust me? The IB rate was 30% higher by the way.
The more we comply with bulltulip, the more we get.
Give them an inch, they take a mile.Comment
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Originally posted by billybiro View PostYawn.. This again..
No, we're not builders, but we're both independent professionals.
Why should one set of "independent professionals" be treated so vastly differently than another set of "independent professionals"?
You wouldn't ask a builder to do a bit of free building to prove his worth, but you would ask him to give up an hour or two to come and discuss what you want doing, and put a quote together.
If you ask a contractor to discuss how they would solve your actual problems during an interview people would be going on about "working for free".
And given how many dodgy builders there are out there, and how many horror stories you come across, I don't think "builders don't do this" is really a great argument in the first place. That's why finding a builder can be so stressful.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostIf you ask a contractor to discuss how they would solve your actual problems during an interview people would be going on about "working for free".
I knew of one company department that regularly would create a job, purely to pump people for info.
I knew that was fact, as I eventually got a role there and was told by perms working there.
It got worse as they hired me for 3 months, then decided, after 2 months, on Christmas week, they had "run out of money".
It was the same guy that interviewed for the "no roles" that decided he didn't have budget
The only upside was another department, I had been working with, took me on for another 3 months, within half an hourThe Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by SimonMac View PostThey have a problem that they can't fix, they want to get it sorted on the cheap, you will give them the answer and then the contract will get binned
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