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[Fred Bloggs]

Directors of Contracting Wise Limited are an Enid Nerys Anne Rowlands and a Damian Bird. Her occupation is given as Marketing and his as Sales Director.

The only shareholder is a company called Knox Limited of Knox House, 16-18 Finch Road, Douglas.

Oh, what a tangled we weave........

[northernladuk]

Here is their front door if that helps. Dunno about Finch Road. Looks more like Pigeon Road.

[northernladuk]

Obviously if somebody from the company wants to jump in and explain, we may be able to clear up some of these questions.

Best not hold our breath for that post.

[northernladuk]

A bloke called Adam answered the phone and it was in a very nonchalant way as if it was his desk phone not a main phone if that helps

[piebaps]

Directors of Contracting Wise Limited are an Enid Nerys Anne Rowlands and a Damian Bird. Her occupation is given as Marketing and his as Sales Director.

The only shareholder is a company called Knox Limited of Knox House, 16-18 Finch Road, Douglas.

[webberg]

I have contacted somebody we know in IOM Regulator and he is "curious" as to how this company operates. IN particular it may not be registered for activities such as payroll and tax advice. I need to check some more on that.

For the moment it seems that digging around here is not producing any clarity just more questions.

Obviously if somebody from the company wants to jump in and explain, we may be able to clear up some of these questions.

[NotAllThere]

Looks like they get mentioned in this article but it's behind a paywall.

Don’t end up like me — run fast from schemes that say they’ll cut your tax | Money | The Sunday Times

Another site, First4contractors.co.uk, states that it is IR35 compliant. It had testimonials from one individual saying he was taking home considerably more pay, thanks to the company.

Official records show the company was dissolved in 2016. However, its phone number still works. When contacted by Money, a representative said he was unable to talk to journalists.

A director of the firm, Christopher Heath, is a director of another firm called Contractor Genie, which also went bust in 2016. However, its website, contractor-genie.co.uk, still works and claims to be able to help you take home up to 90% of pay. It also says its scheme is backed by a leading QC and is 100% UK tax compliant.

When called by Money, the person who answered denied it was the right number and put the phone down.

One contractor is quoted as saying "“Everyone I knew was using it at the time and my employers were happy,” - so it's probably best for NLUK's blood pressure that it's behind a paywall.

[WTFH]

There is a Contracting Wise Ltd in the IOM

20 Finch Rd, Douglas

Number 130198C

Can I be bothered to pay £15 for the documents?

20 finch road?

That’s the side entrance to Knox House.

See: AML/KHT/Smartpay/etc.

[cojak]

Yep - note that the website does not say 'Registered Address', just 'Address'.

And if any punter comes looking, this is for you...

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...following.html

[DaveB]

Privacy policy indicates that the IoM Information Commissioners Office is the supervisory authority for data protection issues, so they have to be IoM based.

[webberg]

Something very odd here.

When I go on the First 4 contractors website it shows the 0845 564 3402 number for an instant and then it changes to 0845 485 7839

Very weird. What's that about then?

Perhaps a bit like scammers using the phone to claim to be HMRC and when you check back it comes up with a real HMRC number.

Apparently some tech is being developed to stop this.

[webberg]

There is a Contracting Wise Ltd in the IOM

20 Finch Rd, Douglas

Number 130198C

Can I be bothered to pay £15 for the documents?

[northernladuk]

Rung the number and a guy said the company is called Contracting Wise.

Their privacy page says

Contact details

Full name of legal entity: Contracting Wise Limited

but can't find anything.

[northernladuk]

Something very odd here.

When I go on the First 4 contractors website it shows the 0845 564 3402 number for an instant and then it changes to 0845 485 7839

Very weird. What's that about then?

[northernladuk]

FIRST 4 CONTRACTORS LTD, PL5 4PJ WHITLEIGH Financial Information

Searching on the phone number also brings back the following but site is down.

Contact
contractor-genie.co.uk/contact/
If you have any questions whatsoever, we'd be happy to answer them for you. Our friendly team are just a phone call or email away. Tel: 0845 564 3402.

EDIT : Yeah, Contractor Genie registered at same address

CONTRACTOR GENIE LTD - Overview (free company information from Companies House)

Looks like they get mentioned in this article but it's behind a paywall.

Don’t end up like me — run fast from schemes that say they’ll cut your tax | Money | The Sunday Times

Google text says

Don't end up like me — run fast from schemes that say they'll cut your ...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/.../dont-...-that-say-they...
31 Mar 2019 - HMRC has launched an aggressive crackdown on tax avoidance ... However, its website, contractor-genie.co.uk, still works and claims to be ...

And CG old website on the web.archive shows it's a 90% plus offering.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190129...r-genie.co.uk/