Reply to: Listen Bob, we are not going to help you

[vetran]

certain strains tend not to defer to females well. Sikh's & Hindu's seem to suffer less from this.

IMHO

[Zippy]

Is this true thing that the bobs do not take instruction from females in the workplace?

Mine did seem to assume that I must be wrong when I told them their code wouldn't work and they'd have to redo it (despite all the evidence to the contrary).

[mos]

Is this true thing that the bobs do not take instruction from females in the workplace?

My experience is quite interesting ... never have been given male report Indian or Chinese. Somehow I always get girls ... concidence or "the solution" ?

[MyUserName]

Is this true thing that the bobs do not take instruction from females in the workplace?

Not in my experience

[minestrone]

Is this true thing that the bobs do not take instruction from females in the workplace?

[d000hg]

That sounds like Suity in the technical forum.

[BillHicksRIP]

One of the technical forums I help out with has a constant stream of bobs asking the most basic of questions in broken English, usually containing the phrases, "Hi Team" and "Please get back to me urgently, it's very important". A lot of them post using their company email address which beggars belief as they're advertising to the world they know nothing about the application they're supposed to be supporting. Makes the rest of us look good I suppose and just underlines how awful a lot of these cowboys are.

[NotAllThere]

Au contraire mon ami.

This was on a forum where there are a lot of technical experts who help each other out for free.

It's legacy stuff, and a lot of those contributors have seen their jobs disappear to Bobland.

There is little motivation to help the Bobs who just want a quick answer and don't give anything back.

If they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.

I moderate a few of the SAP technical forums. People as you describe - leaches - are given short shrift by the residents. It's quite clear that not a few people have lied to get a job then turn to the forums to try to do their job. I suppose it shows a certain initiative.

Talking of which...

The chap above with the problems with changing his password didn't have any initiative to try to solve the issue himself. However, when told to enter "clientcoportal" into the address line of the browser complained it didn't work. "What did you enter?" we asked.
"https://clientportal."

Yeah - well we didn't tell you to enter that, did we. Try entering what we told you...

So when initiative is needed - there is none. When you just want them to do what you tell them, that's when they know better... It must be deliberate.

[bless 'em all]

The new Bobs at our place are so bad the one's that have been over here for a while are taking this piss out of them as well.

You know it's going bad when that happens.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The one thing I have always found amusing, is trying to get a woman to admit they were wrong. Try it, it's impossible. No matter if you have Poirot on them, no matter if you catch them with the knife, in the library with Colonel Mustard, with blood on their hands, they will never admit to being wrong.

Ftfy, including the random punctuation.

[cojak]

If they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.

Quite.

I'm not inclined to promote PM privilege to new posters whose 1st (and only) post is "Please PM me your code/templates".

Come back and contribute something 1st, then ask.

[Sysman]

I think you'll find you're being paid to get the thing working, not to be a petulant child who refuses to help people.

Unless you got a really good contract

Au contraire mon ami.

This was on a forum where there are a lot of technical experts who help each other out for free.

It's legacy stuff, and a lot of those contributors have seen their jobs disappear to Bobland.

There is little motivation to help the Bobs who just want a quick answer and don't give anything back.

If they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.

[d000hg]

You want our jobs?

You want free advice from us to help you do that?



Effoff

I think you'll find you're being paid to get the thing working, not to be a petulant child who refuses to help people.

Unless you got a really good contract

[Paddy]

Previous client co was a bugger for doing similar. They would pick up a contract and outsource it. The outsource co outsourced to a third co. Final outsource would use a mix of Indian offshore and temp ICTs. Each company spent the entire time looking for ways to blame each other rather than getting on with the job.

[eek]

Listen Bob, we are not going to help you

You'rw missing something. One company I know outsourced last year. The company they outsourced to are losing money on the deal so they've shopped the contract round and successfully outsourced it again.

Now any issues are raised on system 1 where it's processed and passed on (Chinese whispers style) to outsource company 2. They then attempt to solve the problem as described usually resulting in 2 subsequent calls being raised

1) a repeat of the first call
2) a new call to fix the consequences of the first call

When this company eventually goes down it will do it in style.