Previous client co was a bugger for doing similar. They would pick up a contract and outsource it. The outsource co outsourced to a third co. Final outsource would use a mix of Indian offshore and temp ICTs. Each company spent the entire time looking for ways to blame each other rather than getting on with the job.
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I think you'll find you're being paid to get the thing working, not to be a petulant child who refuses to help people.Originally posted by Sysman View PostYou want our jobs?
You want free advice from us to help you do that?

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Unless you got a really good contract
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Au contraire mon ami.Originally posted by d000hg View PostI think you'll find you're being paid to get the thing working, not to be a petulant child who refuses to help people.
Unless you got a really good contract
This was on a forum where there are a lot of technical experts who help each other out for free.
It's legacy stuff, and a lot of those contributors have seen their jobs disappear to Bobland.
There is little motivation to help the Bobs who just want a quick answer and don't give anything back.
If they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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Quite.Originally posted by Sysman View PostIf they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.
I'm not inclined to promote PM privilege to new posters whose 1st (and only) post is "Please PM me your code/templates".
Come back and contribute something 1st, then ask."I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
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Ftfy, including the random punctuation.Originally posted by Old Hack View PostThe one thing I have always found amusing, is trying to get a woman to admit they were wrong. Try it, it's impossible. No matter if you have Poirot on them, no matter if you catch them with the knife, in the library with Colonel Mustard, with blood on their hands, they will never admit to being wrong.Comment
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The new Bobs at our place are so bad the one's that have been over here for a while are taking this piss out of them as well.
You know it's going bad when that happens.
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I moderate a few of the SAP technical forums. People as you describe - leaches - are given short shrift by the residents. It's quite clear that not a few people have lied to get a job then turn to the forums to try to do their job. I suppose it shows a certain initiative.Originally posted by Sysman View PostAu contraire mon ami.
This was on a forum where there are a lot of technical experts who help each other out for free.
It's legacy stuff, and a lot of those contributors have seen their jobs disappear to Bobland.
There is little motivation to help the Bobs who just want a quick answer and don't give anything back.
If they contributed answers themselves they would be most welcome.
Talking of which...
The chap above with the problems with changing his password didn't have any initiative to try to solve the issue himself. However, when told to enter "clientcoportal" into the address line of the browser complained it didn't work. "What did you enter?" we asked.
"https://clientportal."
Yeah - well we didn't tell you to enter that, did we. Try entering what we told you...
So when initiative is needed - there is none. When you just want them to do what you tell them, that's when they know better... It must be deliberate.
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One of the technical forums I help out with has a constant stream of bobs asking the most basic of questions in broken English, usually containing the phrases, "Hi Team" and "Please get back to me urgently, it's very important". A lot of them post using their company email address which beggars belief as they're advertising to the world they know nothing about the application they're supposed to be supporting. Makes the rest of us look good I suppose and just underlines how awful a lot of these cowboys are.Comment
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That sounds like Suity in the technical forum.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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