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Previously on "Oh that is weird I never thought they were paid."

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    I'm not the one calling them mercenaries,.
    Yeah, I know.

    Netanyahu is a politician. Of course he's lying.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Ah I see the Israeli's are lying. So difficult to tell nowadays.

    If you receive payment
    Your naivety is rather charming. You'll learn.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    I tried google translate. I got for one of them:
    I received it from Mr Manama Bashira
    Amount of: One hundred fingerprints
    And that for: Duchess

    I'm not convinced of the accuracy...

    Concerning mercenary definition.
    1. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.
    2. a person primarily motivated by personal gain.
    Neither apply to these terrorists. Their primary motivation was to kill Jews - with raping and torturing a side benefit.

    Or do you consider those who use to receive the King's Shilling to enlist were mercenaries?
    I'm not the one calling them mercenaries, it's veterans interpretation of the Wail story.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    I didn't say that "the Israelis" are lying. I try not to group people together like that. I questioned whether the article and the language used in it was correct and honest.

    None of the images show "documents that showed they would be getting payment for the killings that were written in Arabic"

    One is a receipt for a mobile phone repair from 27th June, or do you believe that's a code for "payment for the killings"
    I tried google translate. I got for one of them:
    I received it from Mr Manama Bashira
    Amount of: One hundred fingerprints
    And that for: Duchess

    I'm not convinced of the accuracy...

    Concerning mercenary definition.
    1. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.
    2. a person primarily motivated by personal gain.
    Neither apply to these terrorists. Their primary motivation was to kill Jews - with raping and torturing a side benefit.

    Or do you consider those who use to receive the King's Shilling to enlist were mercenaries?

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Ah I see the Israeli's are lying. So difficult to tell nowadays.
    I didn't say that "the Israelis" are lying. I try not to group people together like that. I questioned whether the article and the language used in it was correct and honest.

    None of the images show "documents that showed they would be getting payment for the killings that were written in Arabic"

    One is a receipt for a mobile phone repair from 27th June, or do you believe that's a code for "payment for the killings"

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    Which point is that? Kill 20 Palestinians for every Israeli killed?
    Hamas disguising themselves as civilians and using civilians as human shields is not really their fault. Its not like Hamas have not done this before.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Can anyone who can read Arabic tell vetran exactly what those (carefully cropped images of) “documents” actually say, because according to google translate, the main one is dated August 2023 and is from a group providing support for the wounded.
    The one at the top says it is for repair of a mobile phone.
    It's almost like this "evidence" is a bunch of receipts.

    It's also interesting (or not) to note that nowhere in the Wail article does it refer to mercenaries.
    Ah I see the Israeli's are lying. So difficult to tell nowadays.

    If you receive payment

    noun: mercenary; plural noun: mercenaries
    1. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.
      "he had planned to seize power with the aid of a group of mercenaries"
      Similar:
      soldier of fortune
      professional soldier
      hired soldier
      hireling
      private army
      merc
      hired gun
      freelance
      condottiere
      adventurer
      lance-knight
      Opposite:
      volunteer
      conscript
      • a person primarily motivated by personal gain.
        "cricket's most infamous mercenary"

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    Documents the terrorists were carrying on them that showed they would be getting payment for the killings that were written in Arabic

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  • WTFH
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    Can anyone who can read Arabic tell vetran exactly what those (carefully cropped images of) “documents” actually say, because according to google translate, the main one is dated August 2023 and is from a group providing support for the wounded.
    The one at the top says it is for repair of a mobile phone.
    It's almost like this "evidence" is a bunch of receipts.

    It's also interesting (or not) to note that nowhere in the Wail article does it refer to mercenaries.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    Israel - or at least Netanyahu - are quite happy with those figures. Their rationale is that if Hamas choose to fight behind a wall of innocent civilians, then the collateral damage is justified if it allows Hamas to be destroyed. It's brutal and harsh and possibly illegal, but it is understandable.

    The other point to consider is that Israel has always said where they are going to attack - so why are the civilians still there, do you suppose? OK, so that works in the first week or two of the attacks, but is becoming increasingly untenable as Gaza runs out of places to get out of the way. Of course, Egypt and Israel could let the Gazan civilians out of the enclave, all you have to do is stop Hamas coming with them. Good luck with that.
    Let them out of the enclave? Perhaps that's part of the problem.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    Which point is that? Kill 20 Palestinians for every Israeli killed?
    Israel - or at least Netanyahu - are quite happy with those figures. Their rationale is that if Hamas choose to fight behind a wall of innocent civilians, then the collateral damage is justified if it allows Hamas to be destroyed. It's brutal and harsh and possibly illegal, but it is understandable.

    The other point to consider is that Israel has always said where they are going to attack - so why are the civilians still there, do you suppose? OK, so that works in the first week or two of the attacks, but is becoming increasingly untenable as Gaza runs out of places to get out of the way. Of course, Egypt and Israel could let the Gazan civilians out of the enclave, all you have to do is stop Hamas coming with them. Good luck with that.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Ok maybe its me, but the idea that the 7th Oct attack was mercenaries not the faithful is quite shocking. Does sort of underline Israel's point.
    Which point is that? Kill 20 Palestinians for every Israeli killed?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    I noticed the spelling of neighbor twice in the article which got me a bit suspicious. Written by a New York based report working for the Daily Mail so appears all above board. I would have thought they would proof read or spell check before putting in a UK paper? Or maybe they don't. Interesting.
    Ok maybe its me, but the idea that the 7th Oct attack was mercenaries not the faithful is quite shocking. Does sort of underline Israel's point.

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  • northernladuk
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    I noticed the spelling of neighbor twice in the article which got me a bit suspicious. Written by a New York based report working for the Daily Mail so appears all above board. I would have thought they would proof read or spell check before putting in a UK paper? Or maybe they don't. Interesting.

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  • vetran
    started a topic Oh that is weird I never thought they were paid.

    Oh that is weird I never thought they were paid.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

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    I assumed it was nutters doing it for the cause not mercenaries.


    Sometimes the world is too weird.

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