Tory Party!

[vetran]

Conservatives fight for the progress of humanity?

Hard to see it at the moment, big C or little c.

as you say little evidence at present they are obsessed with navel gazing & equality. Don't they realise that equality happens easier when we are a prosperous safe nation.

[PerfectStorm]

Conservatives fight for the progress of humanity?

Hard to see it at the moment, big C or little c.

[SueEllen]

Oh this will cheer you all up

[vetran]

Farage will not dare to go near a fisherman after his disgraceful lies to them.

Which lies? that they would get their quotas back and be able to stop the over fishing?

They seem to be truth in this reality.

[malvolio]

U-turns, which can also be described as rethinking strategy based on new information, are a mature approach to government rather than the dogmatic face-saving intransigence we've been used to for so many years. I respect politicians who have the guts to say "Maybe this isn't right and we should consider another option".

As for getting stuff done - yes, by lots of manipulation and outright lies, he managed to stir up enough bulls*** to persuade UK citizens to vote to leave the EU, often without really researching or understanding why, or what the likely outcome might be (this is purely anecdotal based on almost everyone I know who voted to leave). So in that respect he has the ideal profile for a Conservative MP.

You've been reading the wrong papers, I think... Everything's rosy according to some. There's one who thinks the Tories will walk the next election. The reality is probably somewhere in the middle.

But let's at least be clear, Starmer changes his mind every 20 seconds or so depending on who he's talking to, so the current mob are not a good example of U-Turns (more a case of they say something then don't deliver it). And Labour's constant refrain of "the Tories have crashed the economy" doesn't stand up to scrutiny for a moment.

[SueEllen]

oh no they sang at a party they must be evil. You know Hitler was vegetarian?

That's not what I wrote.

They are clearly having a love-in.

I hope it isn't like John Mayor and Edwina Currie, etc.

[Paddy]

would that be an entirely bad thing, he gets stuff done and is not big on U-Turns. Imagine a Conservative party in charge of our EU relationship, reduced immigration and better business.

Farage will not dare to go near a fisherman after his disgraceful lies to them.

[Snooky]

would that be an entirely bad thing, he gets stuff done and is not big on U-Turns. Imagine a Conservative party in charge of our EU relationship, reduced immigration and better business.

U-turns, which can also be described as rethinking strategy based on new information, are a mature approach to government rather than the dogmatic face-saving intransigence we've been used to for so many years. I respect politicians who have the guts to say "Maybe this isn't right and we should consider another option".

As for getting stuff done - yes, by lots of manipulation and outright lies, he managed to stir up enough bulls*** to persuade UK citizens to vote to leave the EU, often without really researching or understanding why, or what the likely outcome might be (this is purely anecdotal based on almost everyone I know who voted to leave). So in that respect he has the ideal profile for a Conservative MP.

[vetran]

Interestingly Farage said "The Tory Party is UKIP", some say this is a precursor to him joining he Tories.

would that be an entirely bad thing, he gets stuff done and is not big on U-Turns. Imagine a Conservative party in charge of our EU relationship, reduced immigration and better business.

[vetran]

oh no they sang at a party they must be evil. You know Hitler was vegetarian?

[Paddy]

Interestingly Farage said "The Tory Party is UKIP", some say this is a precursor to him joining he Tories.

[Lance]

SS Club 7

[SueEllen]