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Previously on "I wasn't working on the computer because I printed it, your honour"
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
I was taught to use pen/pencil and paper to think about problems e.g. not immediately start working on something until I thought it through. So like you am I working when I solve a problem in the shower, cleaning, walking and shopping in the supermarket, etc?
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I'm definitely in the pondering camp ;-) I get my best work done when alone and biking or just looking out the window :-) I remember back in the day (as a contractor) other contractors not understanding why I'd spend 1-1.5 hours (the longer period including jacuzzi) at the gym when I could be billing as we were on hourly rates, what they didn't realise I more often than not could then resolve an issue on my return.
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Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
If at home and I get stuck, I usually go for a 30 min walk down the canal and let my sub conscious have a go, if at work I'll go for a coffee and talk tulip to someone. Or come on here and write tulip to complete strangers (apart from Xog).
I've worked at a lot of manufacturing type places and the higher ups tend to hate software as they don't really understand it and how it can be so expensive. In their world the more you make something the cheaper it becomes as you become more efficient.
Ditto walking & driving provide the best breakthroughs.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
I was taught to use pen/pencil and paper to think about problems e.g. not immediately start working on something until I thought it through. So like you am I working when I solve a problem in the shower, cleaning, walking and shopping in the supermarket, etc?
I've worked at a lot of manufacturing type places and the higher ups tend to hate software as they don't really understand it and how it can be so expensive. In their world the more you make something the cheaper it becomes as you become more efficient.
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I could never imagine working somewhere that installed software to manage your productivity. Just screams this company can't manage people, projects and tasks.
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Originally posted by tazdevil View PostTime != Value
Pondering how and what to do then spending a short period achieving the right result is better than spending oodles of time producing crap. How do these AI monitors measure quality or are employers not interested in quality
If I spend hours thinking a requirement through whilst listening quietly to music or walking the dog or reading CUK then produce perfect code in minutes have I worked hours or minutes?
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Time != Value
Pondering how and what to do then spending a short period achieving the right result is better than spending oodles of time producing crap. How do these AI monitors measure quality or are employers not interested in quality
If I spend hours thinking a requirement through whilst listening quietly to music or walking the dog or reading CUK then produce perfect code in minutes have I worked hours or minutes?
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Originally posted by mattster View PostWhy would you do anything non work-related on a work device at home?
If I'd been this woman, I'd have cited Horizon as a prime example of why it's not reasonable to assume that TimeCamp is reliable.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
I deliver a service, not a bum on seat. I'm working right now because I've got some spare and something to get done. They are getting what they need, when they need and whilst delivering that I can more or less do what I want, when I want
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Originally posted by sadkingbilly View Post
What, like the people who post pages of crap on here Mon-Fri 9 - 5 while billing their clientco for the time??
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
This is where the money is at IMO. WFH has a load of benefits but there are many many people that need to be eyeballed to work. Not everyone is a dedicated professional. I can't begin to imagine how little work some people working in the civil service do when WFH. Many of them are just winding down to retirement so to expect them to work 8 hours at home when they don't really need to. Once we've stabalised in to the new hybrid system, firms have been able to decide what to do with their offices and everything normalises I reckon the next big problem will the management of work from WFH and people slacking.
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Many businesses are turning to workplace surveillance to keep an eye on how their staff perform.
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