Reply to: Come to London the fantastically safe city!!!

[vetran]

Very spooky timing with an article just appearing on the daily wail...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ub-Vanity.html



And I thought I'd been had when they took my last 20 quid!

lightweight they took £30 off me. Apparently its extra for topless waitresses.

[northernladuk]

I don't go all that much but I've been mugged in London. To be fair it was in one of those peep shows in Soho and I forgot to read the 'menu' before sat down. Thankfully it was 30 odd years ago before credit cards were common place so got away lightly. Another group of gentlemen over the way were not so lucky. All part of lifes rich tapestry.

Very spooky timing with an article just appearing on the daily wail...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ub-Vanity.html

Man wakes up to find £98,000 missing from his bank account after 'his drink was spiked' in London strip club that now faces closure after 10 'victims' lost £250,000

And I thought I'd been had when they took my last 20 quid!

[Zigenare]

Nowadays you will still get your smartphone taken out of your hands if you are a dumb walker and only stabbed if you resist.

You are actually more likely to be stabbed in other places in England.

Evidence?

[SueEllen]

"Boris" is like "Thatcher" in some people's eyes; not perceived as having done any good stuff at all. But even Mussolini got the trains running on time...

He was a great advert for London's humour abroad.

One of the London mayor's main roles is to get tourists and businesses to come to London.

The other main role is ensuring the buses, tubes, tram and overground get people where they want to go.

They also have to collaborate with the 33 London boroughs to sort out road traffic and get it running smoothly

The Police and Crime Commissioner role is a side line as the Home Secretary has the final say in appointing the Met Commissioner.

[SueEllen]

I don't go all that much but I've been mugged in London. To be fair it was in one of those peep shows in Soho and I forgot to read the 'menu' before sat down. Thankfully it was 30 odd years ago before credit cards were common place so got away lightly. Another group of gentlemen over the way were not so lucky. All part of lifes rich tapestry.

Nowadays you will still get your smartphone taken out of your hands if you are a dumb walker and only stabbed if you resist.

You are actually more likely to be stabbed in other places in England.

[northernladuk]

I don't feel unsafe in the parts of London I like to spend my time. The vast majority of people don't have an adverse experience.

I don't go all that much but I've been mugged in London. To be fair it was in one of those peep shows in Soho and I forgot to read the 'menu' before sat down. Thankfully it was 30 odd years ago before credit cards were common place so got away lightly. Another group of gentlemen over the way were not so lucky. All part of lifes rich tapestry.

[WTFH]

"Boris" is like "Thatcher" in some people's eyes; not perceived as having done any good stuff at all. But even Mussolini got the trains running on time...

Mussolini got 1 train to run on time, but he had great PR, so it was spun that he was a genius of the far right who understood public transport.

[malvolio]

Why? Was he promoting knifing?

"Boris" is like "Thatcher" in some people's eyes; not perceived as having done any good stuff at all. But even Mussolini got the trains running on time...

[d000hg]

Sadly it seems statistically you are more likely to be stabbed if you are a young male involved in drugs from an ethnic minority. Them the facts.

So you're more likely to be the victim of a crime if you're involved in crime, who knew.

You were less likely to be murdered in London with Boris in charge that is scary.

Why? Was he promoting knifing?

[malvolio]

Sadly it seems statistically you are more likely to be stabbed if you are a young male involved in drugs from an ethnic minority. Them the facts.

You were less likely to be murdered in London with Boris in charge that is scary.



Stats per offence per 1000 people are worse than last year on most things

https://crimerate.co.uk/london#londo...al-crime-rates

27/1000 for violence & sexual offences across London scares me

Well don't go into the city of London.

You have to wonder when they say Slough is 86% safer than City of London!

https://crimerate.co.uk/berkshire/sl...ondon-x-london

Slough is let down by Chalvey which is no surprise.

What do you expect if you elect a mayor with no interest in doing the job he was elected to do but is focussed on fashionable green and woke agendas to the exclusion of everything else, and allow him to direct the Met Police with their variously inept senior officers...

[vetran]

Now where is this sort of reasonable approach going to get us? We need histrionics about the 'black tide'.

Sadly it seems statistically you are more likely to be stabbed if you are a young male involved in drugs from an ethnic minority. Them the facts.

You were less likely to be murdered in London with Boris in charge that is scary.



Stats per offence per 1000 people are worse than last year on most things

https://crimerate.co.uk/london#londo...al-crime-rates

27/1000 for violence & sexual offences across London scares me

Well don't go into the city of London.

You have to wonder when they say Slough is 86% safer than City of London!

https://crimerate.co.uk/berkshire/sl...ondon-x-london

Slough is let down by Chalvey which is no surprise.

[edison]

If you compare London to it's nearest US peer cities (New York, LA and Chicago), then it's murder rate is way less than NY and LA and 90% less than Chicago. It has broadly the same rates of crime as European peers like Paris and Rome and a bit more than Berlin and Madrid.

I've lived in several different parts of North, West, South and central London for long parts of my life and whilst I would never say it's a 'fantastically' safe city (that's Tokyo), I feel safer than many other cities I've been to throughout the world.

[d000hg]

I don't feel unsafe in the parts of London I like to spend my time. The vast majority of people don't have an adverse experience.

Now where is this sort of reasonable approach going to get us? We need histrionics about the 'black tide'.

[ladymuck]

I don't feel unsafe in the parts of London I like to spend my time. The vast majority of people don't have an adverse experience.

[vetran]

How much does "Preventative Policing" cost?

How willing are you to accept that Stop and Search/Robust Policing may cause hurty feelings?

Personally, I don't give a tulip, society is already f*cked!

As they were mostly known to the Police popping them in Prison would cost the same if you gave a 20 year sentence (its £50k a year for a prison sentence). I'm fine with that.

I happy with Stop & search it has a >25% success rate and costs peanuts. Few other methods do. What does need to happen is for it to be more intelligence based so the success rate was >50% it would be totally defensible then. With AI on CCTV that should be possible there are clear indicators when people are being deceitful / aggressive.

Racist Campaigner :"you keep stopping people of colour"
Police : well we charge 50% of them, so its pretty good. We have lower levels of offenders in the whites we stop.



Problem is we still need to live in society.