Reply to: Couldn’t happen to a nicer couple

[northernladuk]

Well he's got away with his shennagans in Spain it appears.. God knows how.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sion-scam.html

And although they described the sum paid to Axis as 'disproportionate' given the factory purchase cost and described the operation as 'strange' and 'hardly compatible' with B3 Cable's interests, they said that did not necessarily imply any criminal wrongdoing.

They added: 'The prosecution accusation was based specifically on the non-existence of services. The possibility of the criminal consideration of an excessive or disproportionate payment hasn't been touched on.'

Of the alleged crime against the Spanish Treasury they said that although the tax relief claimed could be considered very high, it was 'acceptable.'

They also ruled it hadn't been proved money paid to Axis had ended up in an offshore account as prosecutors alleged.

So it appears all smoke and mirrors and skirting the line over which he'll get nailed which I can't help think will happen time and time again in his forthcoming cases. I've a feeling we will see him get away with a ton more stuff with this type of statement at the end.

[northernladuk]

All very exciting this but I wish they'd get on with it. So much work to uncover all this has lead to so much evidence, so drop the hammer and lets get all the legal processes possible started. It's hard to imagine, however clever and slimy he is, he's got a hope of winning anything.

[eek]

Not 100% sure which thread was the best one to post this on so this one will do

https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2024/03/04/..._shadow_fraud/

Dan Neidle has evidence that MR Barrowman committed fraud by misrepresenting which company workers were working through paperwork to agency went from the UK company, but employer and (probably) money going direct to the Isle of Mann.

[Andy2022]

Copy of the Restraining Order - bit dull but links things together

https://d1e00ek4ebabms.cloudfront.ne...65e82e7e99.pdf

[SueEllen]

Don't think The Guardian like her....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-to-reputation

Michelle Mone’s former lawyer is demanding that she apologise and make a donation to a charity for allegedly inflicting “severe and irreparable damage” to his reputation by suggesting he had advised her to tell lies.

[SueEllen]

Yeah you would expect that to be the case. All owned by some entity deep in the mire of this business/tax dealings.

Seems to be the case as their house is owned by a company.

https://www.ft.com/content/5a83c1ae-...f-943537687210


A townhouse in London’s Belgravia owned by a company linked to the husband of Tory peer Baroness Michelle Mone is on sale for £25mn, weeks after the lingerie tycoon admitted lying over her role regarding a medical equipment company that won more than £200mn of UK state contracts during the pandemic.

The six-bedroom home in one of London’s most expensive residential neighbourhoods is owned by an Isle of Man company that is part of the Knox group of companies, founded and chaired by Mone’s husband, Douglas Barrowman. The property at 4 Chester Square was acquired in late 2020 for £9.25mn.

Knox group told the Financial Times in December 2022 that it was purchased as an investment and that the company planned to sell the house after a refurbishment. Knox said at the time the acquisition was funded “using group internal resources and external banking facilities”.


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The registered owner of the Chester Square house is Chester Ventures, according to UK land records. Chester Ventures’ beneficial owner is identified in Companies House records as Knox House Trustees (UK) Limited.

Knox Group and Mone did not reply to requests for comment.

[northernladuk]

Is it not more likely though, that neither of them will have any assets tied to them and easily freezable ?

Yeah you would expect that to be the case. All owned by some entity deep in the mire of this business/tax dealings.

[SueEllen]

Is it not more likely though, that neither of them will have any assets tied to them and easily freezable ?

From https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...stigates-fraud

The pair face an investigation by the National Crime Agency into alleged medical equipment fraud. The Financial Times reported that the frozen assets included a six-bedroom central London townhouse, a country estate on the Isle of Man, and 15 accounts with Coutts, C Hoare & Co and Goldman Sachs International.

Issued in December, the restraint order blocks Mone, a lingerie entrepreneur, and her husband, the financier Douglas Barrowman, from selling some of the assets and places restrictions on others.

Mone and Barrowman, who is based in the Isle of Man, agreed to the court order after an application by the Crown Prosecution Service under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

The court order was “a result of a consensual process during which negotiations took place with the CPS”, a spokesperson for Mone and Barrowman told the FT.

I thought the town house was for sale?

[TestMangler]

Good good. Baby steps. I'm a little worried any investigations/prosecutions are going to fail if HMRC are involved. They have a history of completely screwing up even the most straight forward case and this is far from straight forward but maybe a criminal investigation will do a better job.

It's only looking and the PPE bit though, I'm still hoping all the work uncovering his loans carry ons will reach court as well but it's so complex. Once they get in to the details of his accounting it's going to be an utter minefield.

I would have thought, but then what do I know, he should be going cap in hand to everybody that is threatening to do him over, ask for a settlement which is likely to be way below what a full investigation would turn up, pay it quick and try put a lid on it all. But a) he's probably and arrogant sod and b) he's got so much money to throw at this he believes he can either win on make it too difficult to carry on.

Is it not more likely though, that neither of them will have any assets tied to them and easily freezable ?

[northernladuk]

And now their assets are being frozen…

https://on.ft.com/3u7eo1t

Good good. Baby steps. I'm a little worried any investigations/prosecutions are going to fail if HMRC are involved. They have a history of completely screwing up even the most straight forward case and this is far from straight forward but maybe a criminal investigation will do a better job.

It's only looking and the PPE bit though, I'm still hoping all the work uncovering his loans carry ons will reach court as well but it's so complex. Once they get in to the details of his accounting it's going to be an utter minefield.

I would have thought, but then what do I know, he should be going cap in hand to everybody that is threatening to do him over, ask for a settlement which is likely to be way below what a full investigation would turn up, pay it quick and try put a lid on it all. But a) he's probably and arrogant sod and b) he's got so much money to throw at this he believes he can either win on make it too difficult to carry on.

[Andy2022]

And now their assets are being frozen…

https://on.ft.com/3u7eo1t

[Keanu2020]

To busy chasing individual contractors. Maybe we just don’t think big enough is our problem . . . .


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...droidApp_Other

[Zigenare]

It would appear that Mr Barrowman and Ms Mone are to take delivery of a new toy this year...

[vetran]

Nice to know some people take these forums seriously....

Glad to see come uppance coming to some of these firms

[SueEllen]

He's also gone through the key points in a very, very long Twitter thread which includes screenshots from these very forums!

Nice to know some people take these forums seriously....