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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    As he rightly says, he only comments on threads to add his input which generally fall into 3 categories:
    Or he's taking the micky out of your various portentous warnings of imminent disaster?

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    I find it interesting which threads he comments on.
    As he rightly says, he only comments on threads to add his input which generally fall into 3 categories:

    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    either wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by dsc View Post

    Where's the projected growth data?
    scope creep not my problem you have a look.

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  • dsc
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Where's the projected growth data?

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post

    No, definitely not that.

    Did you miss the bit about the EU member countries electing their representatives?
    Yes, I did, because they elect their MEPs, not the people who actually run the EU system. And you also need to distinguish between a Federated Union, which the EU isn't (much as the bureaucrats want it to be) and a group of countries agreeing to operate a common set of rules, mainly about trade and movement of people, which it is. The EU is also not the USA, with a federal government governing over the top of 50 independent states who can set their own rules within the overall federal constitution.

    Seriously, if you can't get the geopolitics right, perhaps best not to argue about them.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Or, of course, I'm smart enough to appreciate the difference between the unelected Brussels pantomime bureaucracy and 29 separate countries...
    No, definitely not that.

    Did you miss the bit about the EU member countries electing their representatives?

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post


    Love this ...... always refer to the EU as a single entity ... until it suits them not to
    Or, of course, I'm smart enough to appreciate the difference between the unelected Brussels pantomime bureaucracy and 29 separate countries...

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    They'll be the ones that are either wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong. Which gives plenty of scope it had to be said.

    For example comparing one country to a random group of countries with wildly divergent numbers is an exercise in futility. Unless you believe the EU is a single entity of course.

    Love this ...... always refer to the EU as a single entity ... until it suits them not to

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    He just grasps for numbers. Any numbers that are lower/higher than the figure he's disputing. He doesn't actually understand what the numbers mean.
    When the figures are in your favour you quote Germany individually as an EU powerhouse that the UK can't hope to match. When they aren't you quote the EU overall. So by my understanding your definition of wrong is "when it doesn't support NAT & WTFH's bulltulip"

    HTH BIDI

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    I find it interesting which threads he comments on.
    They'll be the ones that are either wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong. Which gives plenty of scope it had to be said.

    For example comparing one country to a random group of countries with wildly divergent numbers is an exercise in futility. Unless you believe the EU is a single entity of course.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    He just grasps for numbers. Any numbers that are lower/higher than the figure he's disputing. He doesn't actually understand what the numbers mean.
    I find it interesting which threads he comments on.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    The question was relating to the EU. Not in individual independent countries within it who have their own budgets, their own inflation, their own freedoms.


    ...but you knew that.
    He just grasps for numbers. Any numbers that are lower/higher than the figure he's disputing. He doesn't actually understand what the numbers mean.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    The question was relating to the EU. Not in individual independent countries within it who have their own budgets, their own inflation, their own freedoms.


    ...but you knew that.
    the whiff of desperation is strong in this one!

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    I wonder if the EU's rate as a total of all members is below the UK's, given it will include the economic powerhouses such as Belgium, Lichtenstein and assorted eastern and Baltic Europeans...

    Oh look - it's 10.9%, with France at 6.2% and Estonia at 24.1%. There are ten lower than us, the other 17 are equal or higher. Oddly enough, Germany and Austria are at the same level as the EU as a whole.
    The question was relating to the EU. Not in individual independent countries within it who have their own budgets, their own inflation, their own freedoms.


    ...but you knew that.

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  • malvolio
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    I wonder if the EU's rate as a total of all members is below the UK's, given it will include the economic powerhouses such as Belgium, Lichtenstein and assorted eastern and Baltic Europeans...

    Oh look - it's 10.9%, with France at 6.2% and Estonia at 24.1%. There are ten lower than us, the other 17 are equal or higher. Oddly enough, Germany and Austria are at the same level as the EU as a whole.

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