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Or he's taking the micky out of your various portentous warnings of imminent disaster?
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As he rightly says, he only comments on threads to add his input which generally fall into 3 categories:Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
I find it interesting which threads he comments on.
Originally posted by malvolio View Posteither wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong.
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Yes, I did, because they elect their MEPs, not the people who actually run the EU system. And you also need to distinguish between a Federated Union, which the EU isn't (much as the bureaucrats want it to be) and a group of countries agreeing to operate a common set of rules, mainly about trade and movement of people, which it is. The EU is also not the USA, with a federal government governing over the top of 50 independent states who can set their own rules within the overall federal constitution.Originally posted by Whorty View Post
No, definitely not that.
Did you miss the bit about the EU member countries electing their representatives?
Seriously, if you can't get the geopolitics right, perhaps best not to argue about them.
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No, definitely not that.Originally posted by malvolio View PostOr, of course, I'm smart enough to appreciate the difference between the unelected Brussels pantomime bureaucracy and 29 separate countries...
Did you miss the bit about the EU member countries electing their representatives?
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Or, of course, I'm smart enough to appreciate the difference between the unelected Brussels pantomime bureaucracy and 29 separate countries...Originally posted by Whorty View Post
Love this ...... always refer to the EU as a single entity ... until it suits them not to
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Originally posted by malvolio View Post
They'll be the ones that are either wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong. Which gives plenty of scope it had to be said.
For example comparing one country to a random group of countries with wildly divergent numbers is an exercise in futility. Unless you believe the EU is a single entity of course.
Love this ...... always refer to the EU as a single entity ... until it suits them not to
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When the figures are in your favour you quote Germany individually as an EU powerhouse that the UK can't hope to match. When they aren't you quote the EU overall. So by my understanding your definition of wrong is "when it doesn't support NAT & WTFH's bulltulip"Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
He just grasps for numbers. Any numbers that are lower/higher than the figure he's disputing. He doesn't actually understand what the numbers mean.
HTH BIDI
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They'll be the ones that are either wilfully misleading, ignore reality or are simply wrong. Which gives plenty of scope it had to be said.Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
I find it interesting which threads he comments on.
For example comparing one country to a random group of countries with wildly divergent numbers is an exercise in futility. Unless you believe the EU is a single entity of course.
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He just grasps for numbers. Any numbers that are lower/higher than the figure he's disputing. He doesn't actually understand what the numbers mean.Originally posted by WTFH View Post
The question was relating to the EU. Not in individual independent countries within it who have their own budgets, their own inflation, their own freedoms.
...but you knew that.
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The question was relating to the EU. Not in individual independent countries within it who have their own budgets, their own inflation, their own freedoms.Originally posted by malvolio View PostI wonder if the EU's rate as a total of all members is below the UK's, given it will include the economic powerhouses such as Belgium, Lichtenstein and assorted eastern and Baltic Europeans...
Oh look - it's 10.9%, with France at 6.2% and Estonia at 24.1%. There are ten lower than us, the other 17 are equal or higher. Oddly enough, Germany and Austria are at the same level as the EU as a whole.
...but you knew that.
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I wonder if the EU's rate as a total of all members is below the UK's, given it will include the economic powerhouses such as Belgium, Lichtenstein and assorted eastern and Baltic Europeans...
Oh look - it's 10.9%, with France at 6.2% and Estonia at 24.1%. There are ten lower than us, the other 17 are equal or higher. Oddly enough, Germany and Austria are at the same level as the EU as a whole.
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