Reply to: The Worst UK Tory PM

[TheDude]

My point was that we haven't had a decent, honest and effective PM of any party since Maggie - and quite a lot of people don't even agree about her. Sorry if that was a bit too subtle for you.

Decent?

[d000hg]

Gordon Brown - Famous for totally screwing the best pension system in the world (and leading indirectly to the current financial mess) and inventing the whole concept of stealth taxation

Tony Blair - for leading us into an unnecessary and pointless war costing hundreds of UK lives on the basis of a complete fabrication and politicising the Civil Service (probably the greatest betrayal since Chamberlin)

Again you show inability to read. Please don't try and derail every thread into a metaphorical nosh-fest for BJ.

Cameron should be in the list but Major is hardly a Tory leader of 'recent years' either.

[malvolio]

more than too subtle your post was just not relevant at all.

So clearly too subtle then...

[PCTNN]

My point was that we haven't had a decent, honest and effective PM of any party since Maggie - and quite a lot of people don't even agree about her. Sorry if that was a bit too subtle for you.

more than too subtle your post was just not relevant at all.

[Eirikur]

Truss is married to Hugh O'Leary
So her name is Mary O'leary Cannot get any more Irisher

[SueEllen]

Different times and different attitudes. Not sure that "I nominate Winston Churchill" in answer to "Who is the worse Tory UK PM of recent years?" is valid.

That's the "subtle" point.

A bit like what politicians do.

[Zigenare]

I nominate Winston Churchill. His treatment of India and other (now former) colonies was appalling.

Different times and different attitudes. Not sure that "I nominate Winston Churchill" in answer to "Who is the worse Tory UK PM of recent years?" is valid.

[Whorty]

I think he was talking about the EU - aka Germany and France - rather than the UK...

No? really? Probably too subtle for me ....

[ladymuck]

I nominate Winston Churchill. His treatment of India and other (now former) colonies was appalling.

[TheDude]

Wait a minute.. really? What about the Gordon Brown tax timebomb? Do you honestly believe the more you earn the higher percentage tax rate should be? Wheres the incentive to work harder?

This assumes anyone can earn more if they just work harder.

Many poorly paid people work extremely hard and have little prospect of ever significantly improving their circumstances.

[malvolio]

Boris wasn't quite that bad ... he was only in it for himself. The rest of them though ....

I think he was talking about the EU - aka Germany and France - rather than the UK...

[Whorty]

ein volk ein reich ein führer -- oh goody

Boris wasn't quite that bad ... he was only in it for himself. The rest of them though ....

[vetran]

The Tory Party has already collapsed. The party was infiltrated by UKIP prior to 2016 and openly welcomed them and other extremists after the referendum. Thatcher and company are lefties compared with the current government. Heseltine was as about far right as you could fine a Tory MP, now the Tories consider him as a leftie whip. The Tory Party is virtually UKIP without Farage


At the last election, Bojo made sure that all the Tory MPs were pro-brexit, today it's almost impossible to find one of those MPs defending brexit.

The postponed London march to re-join the EU will take place the Saturday 22 October, no-one is expecting a re-join any time soon but it may be the seeding of the single market and customs union in one for or another.

ein volk ein reich ein führer -- oh goody

[Paddy]

Apart from being hated by the extreme brexidiots from her own party, pushing for the impossible then taking her down, what did May do wrong?

Tories imploded and put in the dick Boris, as he promised brexit unicorns to appease the idiots, and look where we are now. Brexit still a mess, economy a mess, and talk of another Tory leader being kicked out.

The party deserves to collapse in on itself (or up it's own backside)

The Tory Party has already collapsed. The party was infiltrated by UKIP prior to 2016 and openly welcomed them and other extremists after the referendum. Thatcher and company are lefties compared with the current government. Heseltine was as about far right as you could fine a Tory MP, now the Tories consider him as a leftie whip. The Tory Party is virtually UKIP without Farage


At the last election, Bojo made sure that all the Tory MPs were pro-brexit, today it's almost impossible to find one of those MPs defending brexit.

The postponed London march to re-join the EU will take place the Saturday 22 October, no-one is expecting a re-join any time soon but it may be the seeding of the single market and customs union in one for or another.

[Whorty]

My point was that we haven't had a decent, honest and effective PM of any party since Maggie - and quite a lot of people don't even agree about her. Sorry if that was a bit too subtle for you.

The Labour system as re-engineered by Millipede gave us (potentially at least) the utterly unelectable Corbyn followed by the current Max Headroom vacuum. The Tory one has failed to deliver a good PM every time it's been operated (and when it actually did, it produced Boris...). One day, our elected representative may realise that while they may have good people in their pool, they are incapable of identifying them.

Apart from being hated by the extreme brexidiots from her own party, pushing for the impossible then taking her down, what did May do wrong?

Tories imploded and put in the dick Boris, as he promised brexit unicorns to appease the idiots, and look where we are now. Brexit still a mess, economy a mess, and talk of another Tory leader being kicked out.

The party deserves to collapse in on itself (or up it's own backside)