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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post

    That's good, but there were reports of melting roads on Monday:

    https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/20...atures-hit-54c
    Ah they an area in the UK where they haven't fixed the roads. Probably no need to until now unlike other areas of the country.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    What are you talking about?

    The roads around where I grew up in London melted in the early 90s when the temperatures were 25-27 for a week. So the councils fixed them so they wouldn't melt until the temperature was a lot higher. On Monday no roads melted near me.
    That's good, but there were reports of melting roads on Monday:

    https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/20...atures-hit-54c

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    What are you talking about?

    The roads around where I grew up in London melted in the early 90s when the temperatures were 25-27 for a week. So the councils fixed them so they wouldn't melt until the temperature was a lot higher. On Monday no roads melted near me.
    You must drop the temperature wherever you go.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post

    The road builders of the early part of the 20th century knew that temperatures have topped 38 degrees in the past so don't you think they should have added in a bit of a reserve. The temperatures exceeded this for about an hour in very isolated spots.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_U...gdom_heat_wave


    The roads were already melting on Monday before they reached that temperature.
    What are you talking about?

    The roads around where I grew up in London melted in the early 90s when the temperatures were 25-27 for a week. So the councils fixed them so they wouldn't melt until the temperature was a lot higher. On Monday no roads melted near me.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Which is set up for that heat. No melting roads there.

    Oh and welcome back!
    The road builders of the early part of the 20th century knew that temperatures have topped 38 degrees in the past so don't you think they should have added in a bit of a reserve. The temperatures exceeded this for about an hour in very isolated spots.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_U...gdom_heat_wave

    37.8 °C (100.0 °F) was reported at Greenwich, London
    The roads were already melting on Monday before they reached that temperature.

    I suspect if a freak low pressure had blown in a lot of hot air from North Africa in 1911 on the exact day the heatwave was peaking that the temperatures could have easily topped 40.

    In 1906 the temperatures exceeded 35 degrees in September and this temperature record hasn't been broken since:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37345436

    The all-time record for September of 35.6C (96.1F) was set in 1906, in Bawtry, South Yorkshire.
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 21 July 2022, 15:03.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Been 40 plus for most of the week. But then again I am in Turkey
    Which is set up for that heat. No melting roads there.

    Oh and welcome back!

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    How far is Bournemouth airport from the beach?

    If you read the information on the Met's website you can work out how likely the beach reached 40 degrees.
    About three miles however, it's passed hills and a cliff and then there is the cooling of the sea therefore it can make a difference of five to eight degrees and quite often the weather is different. Its a bit like driving through an Alpine tunnel, foggy and drizzle one side and sunny and clear the other side.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Been 40 plus for most of the week. But then again I am in Turkey

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by quackhandle View Post
    I have a temp/humidity sensor thing 8 quid from Amazon.

    In the direct sunlight it was showing 46 degrees C!

    However in the shade it settled at 38.5C

    That's why the Met have a list criteria of where weather stations are located for readings to be valid.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    Again it depends where the weather station is located; for example in Bournemouth it is located at the Bournemouth (Hurn) Airport not on the beach.
    How far is Bournemouth airport from the beach?

    If you read the information on the Met's website you can work out how likely the beach reached 40 degrees.

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  • quackhandle
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    I have a temp/humidity sensor thing 8 quid from Amazon.

    In the direct sunlight it was showing 46 degrees C!

    However in the shade it settled at 38.5C

    Raining today, crappy British Summer!

    qh

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post

    39-40 was reported in several places. The people installing and verifying weather monitoring stations are not idiots. Huge parts of the country had temperatures in the mid-30s.
    I just checked and Hartlepool reached 37C as did Worthing... probably other coastal locations I got bored.
    Again it depends where the weather station is located; for example in Bournemouth it is located at the Bournemouth (Hurn) Airport not on the beach.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Record temperature of 40c was recorded at RAF Coningsby where the weather station is situated on a flat tarmac roof. Yet the press were showing photos of the seaside claiming people were basking on the beach at 40c when it was just touching 30c
    39-40 was reported in several places. The people installing and verifying weather monitoring stations are not idiots. Huge parts of the country had temperatures in the mid-30s.
    I just checked and Hartlepool reached 37C as did Worthing... probably other coastal locations I got bored.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Actually that's not true. If they are staff and sent home for H&S reasons then they have to be paid.
    Staff yes but shift-work/ZHC would be very common. As you say the "rent a chair" model is common too so that might be more complex... but quite likely all concerned were in agreement anyway.

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  • Paddy
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    Record temperature of 40c was recorded at RAF Coningsby where the weather station is situated on a flat tarmac roof. Yet the press were showing photos of the seaside claiming people were basking on the beach at 40c when it was just touching 30c

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