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  • d000hg
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    Seems like they wanted a high profile example.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Nearly everyone lies to the police when collared. I bet if I throw a brick through your window and get caught on CCTV but deny it's me, I wouldn't be in jail.
    Maybe they do but here are some facts for you...

    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...ating-factors/

    Offender mitigation
    • genuine remorse;
    • admissions to police in interview;
    • ready co-operation with authorities.
    So it is taken in to account and will affect the sentencing.

    Unfortunately he has also triggered one of the aggravating factors which is 'offence was racially or religiously aggravated' and it's a high profile emotive case so likely to get made an example of. So who knows if the mitigation would have helped.

    But my point stands. He might have mitigated his sentence if he'd not lied.


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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Unix View Post
    CUK sockies will be shaking in their boots.
    I guess there is actually a serious side to that.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

    So lying to the police won't have helped his case. I can't help thinking if he'd admitted it he might have avoided a jail sentence but it has been quoted the judge had to impose a jail sentence due to the racist nature of the post so who knows.
    Nearly everyone lies to the police when collared. I bet if I throw a brick through your window and get caught on CCTV but deny it's me, I wouldn't be in jail.

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  • Unix
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    CUK sockies will be shaking in their boots.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Stupidity is not a defence but neither is it a punishable offence.

    Some sort of fine or court-ordered community service seems more likely to be the wake-up call needed. There's also the disparity what about all the other people who do this sort of thing every day and got away with it? Rashford got a LOT of abuse for that game and I imagine gets racist messages every day. And is it a worse offence to insult someone famous?
    I'd kind of agree but I'm not that bothered either way to be honest. Also what isn't reported in some of the stories is the following.

    He initially tried to avoid detection by changing his Twitter username after the post was reported, the CPS said.

    The teenager then denied the offence in his first police interview after his arrest, but later admitted posting the tweet when officers questioned him a second time.
    So lying to the police won't have helped his case. I can't help thinking if he'd admitted it he might have avoided a jail sentence but it has been quoted the judge had to impose a jail sentence due to the racist nature of the post so who knows.

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  • NotAllThere
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    I'm with that Not The Nine O'Clock News Sketch.

    Cut their goolies off. Right off with them.

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  • SueEllen
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    He must have a habit of abusing people on social media.

    There is a lot the papers deliberately leave out.

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  • vetran
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    http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/...renottheanswer

    £44k for a prison place.

    An order that he cannot touch the internet probably a few hundred quid.

    If he is a regular offender weekly community service and/or £20K on tagging would be better.

    What he did was very wrong but I would save a prison place for violent offenders or rehab for addicts.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

    EDIT : Actually thinking about it, forget the above. If someone is that stupid then they deserve whatever they get however overly harsh it may be. Screw the idiot.
    Stupidity is not a defence but neither is it a punishable offence.

    Some sort of fine or court-ordered community service seems more likely to be the wake-up call needed. There's also the disparity what about all the other people who do this sort of thing every day and got away with it? Rashford got a LOT of abuse for that game and I imagine gets racist messages every day. And is it a worse offence to insult someone famous?

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  • GJABS
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    Jail seems a bit harsh. A £50 fine would have been fairer - it's hardly the crime of the century.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    A computer control order (banning him from social media) would have been far cheaper and efficient.

    No twitter for the tw@t for a year makes sense.
    I'd have to agree with this but then didn't see if there was mitigating circumstances i.e. a long history of tweets like this or turning up to court in a BNP tee-shirt etc.

    If he's been a keyboard warrior thinking he's safe saying this rubbish on line the above would have probably been the wakeup call he needed. If he's a long history of it and it's clearly a problem he has offline then maybe jail was the best wake up call after all.

    EDIT : Actually thinking about it, forget the above. If someone is that stupid then they deserve whatever they get however overly harsh it may be. Screw the idiot.

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  • vetran
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    A computer control order (banning him from social media) would have been far cheaper and efficient.

    No twitter for the tw@t for a year makes sense.

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  • d000hg
    started a topic What a twit

    What a twit

    A man who racially abused Marcus Rashford on Twitter after the striker missed a penalty in England's Euro 2020 final shoot-out defeat has been jailed.

    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Justin Lee Price sent a "clearly racist" tweet to the Manchester United player after the loss in July 2021.

    The 19-year-old's actions constituted a "hate crime", a CPS spokesman said.

    Price, of Grandison Gardens, Worcester, was jailed for six weeks at Kidderminster Magistrates' Court.

    A bit of a wake-up call really, how seriously social media can be taken by the law. 6 weeks in prison for a single tweet... I'm not sure if he had priors because that seems tremendously tough as a first action to me?

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