Reply to: Will Boris eat his cake and still have it?

[WTFH]

5 aides now resigned.

But back to the title of the thread, and we'll go from cake to Pie...
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/o...y-scandal.html

[OwlHoot]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60253231


4 aides now resigned... is this the rats deserting the sinking ship?

No it's the rats leaping off the deck before "Big Dog" drop kicks them off, not that either form of their departure will do him much good.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has gone, voluntarily or otherwise, by the end of this month.

[malvolio]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60253231


4 aides now resigned... is this the rats deserting the sinking ship?

Better for your continuing career in the civil service to resign before you get sacked for breaking the law. These are not politicians after all....

[d000hg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60253231

Four senior aides to Boris Johnson have resigned from Downing Street within hours of each other amid growing pressure on the prime minister.

4 aides now resigned... is this the rats deserting the sinking ship?

[d000hg]

I thoight I just answered that.

You thought wrong. I already explained why...

[malvolio]

It's been made clear it's factually wrong, there's no argument.

And the analogy is poor. This is like saying Boris should resign because there were covid breaches in regional conservative offices outside London which he had no direct links with, rather than that he should resign because there were breaches in his daily workplace, breaches involving his closest co-workers (ministers) and his family, breaches organised by his personal secretary, breaches in his garden, breaches in his personal dwelling.

It's just a dumb one-liner that went badly. Not sure where and why it came from or what he hoped to gain from it.

I thoight I just answered that.

Yes it was dumb and inaccurate. It was not, however, irrelevant.

[SueEllen]

inews is the old i, run by the Daily Mail group and using the same 'journalists' that update the Daily Mail website. If you want an impartial update as to the goings on in Downing Street, inews is not the best go to source. I'm just mentioning this in the event you didn't know it was DMG owned and run.

I heard the story on the radio and it was the first free link I Googled.

[d000hg]

While the Saville reference was arguably wrong, the point of it was to point out that if the man at the top is fully responsible for everything that happens under his leadership, as Starmer has been consistently arguing for the last few weeks, then it cuts both ways. And failures of the CPS under Starmer's leadership were rather more serious.

It's been made clear it's factually wrong, there's no argument.

And the analogy is poor. This is like saying Boris should resign because there were covid breaches in regional conservative offices outside London which he had no direct links with, rather than that he should resign because there were breaches in his daily workplace, breaches involving his closest co-workers (ministers) and his family, breaches organised by his personal secretary, breaches in his garden, breaches in his personal dwelling.

It's just a dumb one-liner that went badly. Not sure where and why it came from or what he hoped to gain from it.

[agentzero]

His policy advisor of 14 years has resigned due to his Saville reference.

She is disappointed with him.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/mu...tarmer-1441547

inews is the old i, run by the Daily Mail group and using the same 'journalists' that update the Daily Mail website. If you want an impartial update as to the goings on in Downing Street, inews is not the best go to source. I'm just mentioning this in the event you didn't know it was DMG owned and run.

[malvolio]

While the Saville reference was arguably wrong, the point of it was to point out that if the man at the top is fully responsible for everything that happens under his leadership, as Starmer has been consistently arguing for the last few weeks, then it cuts both ways. And failures of the CPS under Starmer's leadership were rather more serious.

Ultimately it's yet another distraction from more important issues. Bojo's position at PM will be persisting a while longer so unless another 37 MP's put in or have secretly put in letters ahead of the Met or Gray's full report, whichever comes first (the BBC claim 17 have done so or will be doing so at some point), he's not going to resign.

Meanwhile, in other news.....

[SueEllen]

‘You are a better man than many of your detractors will ever understand which is why it is so desperately sad that you let yourself down by making a scurrilous accusation against the Leader of the Opposition.’

[jamesbrown]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...my-savile-slur

That's gonna hurt.

[SueEllen]

His policy advisor of 14 years has resigned due to his Saville reference.

She is disappointed with him.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/mu...tarmer-1441547

Munira Mirza, head of policy at No 10, resigned this afternoon after telling Mr Johnson his claims about the Labour leader was an “inappropriate and partisan reference to a horrendous case of child sex abuse”.
One of Boris Johnson’s closest advisers has resigned over the Prime Minister’s Jimmy Savile claims about Sir Keir Starmer, according to reports.

The Spectator reported Munira Mirza, head of policy at No 10, resigned this afternoon after telling Mr Johnson his claims about the Labour leader was an “inappropriate and partisan reference to a horrendous case of child sex abuse”.

Ms Mirza has been with the PM since his days as London Mayor and her resignation will be a significant blow.

[d000hg]

And wasn't wearing a mask at the HoC, as she sat beside Priti, who was also maskless (although Priti may have bullied the virus into submission)

And? The cabinet meet presumably all the time 1:1 and in small groups. Most people aren't wearing masks any more, didn't you hear Covid is all over

[mattster]

Kind of a sad indictment of poor old Theresa...

Depends on what you are looking for from your PM I guess. It was once considered a fairly serious position..