Reply to: PCP car deal - what's the catch?

[northernladuk]

We were about to look for a ‘new’ second hand car but it looks as if we’ll have to keep the Astra for another year…

The red one?

[cojak]

We were about to look for a ‘new’ second hand car but it looks as if we’ll have to keep the Astra for another year…

[northernladuk]

The changes caused by the flooding of Doggerland at the end of the last ice age were rather extensive.

I thought you meant Rivington Car Park until I checked the link

[vwdan]

Yes, and in my case, a specialist will need the car for another 4 weeks or so to fit specialist adaptations. (I can't use pedals anymore, except on a very short run <5 miles).
It seems everyone wants small SUV's with some type of 4wd capability.

Yep, I picked up a Jaaaaaag Sportbrake and it's tragic how unpopular they are. Fantastic car, great to drive, huge amount of space but nobody is interested because it's not stupidly high off the floor and with faux 4WD. The good news is I saved ~£25k by buying 2 years old!

[mattster]

Oh well, missus couldn't decide whether or not she liked the Octavia and wanted a Karoq instead. By the time we got around to pricing it all up again the 0% deals had been pulled (4.1% APR now) and the lead time has gone up to nearly 6 months. Perhaps it's not a good time to buy a car after all - another season in our increasingly rancid, two dog two kid ridden 11 year old cmax awaits.

[courtg9000]

All those yummy mummies taking their little darlings to nursery. It's dangerous on the streets nowadays

VW and Peugeot are not trendy enough to be parked outside school or nursery gates.
For that, it has to be Land Rover, Audi, BMW, Merc
Little Tarquin and Petronella could not be seen to be being dropped off in anything less!
Round here they all get dropped off in Jags and Land Rovers

[ladymuck]

It seems everyone wants small SUV's with some type of 4wd capability.

All those yummy mummies taking their little darlings to nursery. It's dangerous on the streets nowadays

[vetran]

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

Indeed you would have thought the car manufacturers would have planned for this, oh sorry lets blame it on brexit and deny responsibility.

To be fair it was 8-12 weeks wait for a manufactured new car 20 years ago its just got worse despite all this JIT manufacturing.

We used to build huge electrical systems (bigger than most cars) in 7 days 20 years ago.

[courtg9000]

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

Yes, and in my case, a specialist will need the car for another 4 weeks or so to fit specialist adaptations. (I can't use pedals anymore, except on a very short run <5 miles).
It seems everyone wants small SUV's with some type of 4wd capability.

[caffeine man]

Had a chat with Peugeot today. 8 months for a vehicle of my choosing with very little dealer stock anywhere remotely near the spec I want (2008, grip control and other options) and require. A similar chat with VW and delivery was over a year (T-roc 4 motion).

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

[courtg9000]

ask the dealers how long it is taking to build you a car. Lot of news articles about chip shortages, leading to extended car build times.

Used car prices were pushed up, by people desperate to avoid public transport during covid, and wanting a car right now, rather than waiting typically 3 months before covid, for a new build. The extended car build times are also pushing people towards used cars.

Had a chat with Peugeot today. 8 months for a vehicle of my choosing with very little dealer stock anywhere remotely near the spec I want (2008, grip control and other options) and require. A similar chat with VW and delivery was over a year (T-roc 4 motion).

[vetran]

The changes caused by the flooding of Doggerland at the end of the last ice age were rather extensive.

Just imagine what life would be like today if that hadn't happened

https://www.nationalgeographic.org/maps/doggerland/

Now that really is leaving Europe! Bet Katie Hopping mad would like that.

[vetran]

Quite, in fact I was wondering the other day if any of the cacti we were persuaded to plant in Lincs in the 90's semi droughts are alive today? Climates always change, we're human , adapt. I wonder if the ancients stopped chopping down trees to stop the channel cutting them off from the main land? And what did salmon do when the mouth of the Rhine moved from the Thames to its present day position?

shush we are all going to die how dare you suggest mother earth isn't dying because of us filthy male humans?

[ladymuck]

The changes caused by the flooding of Doggerland at the end of the last ice age were rather extensive.

Just imagine what life would be like today if that hadn't happened

https://www.nationalgeographic.org/maps/doggerland/

[Gibbon]

Not another one blaming flooding on climate change, there were far worse flooding in the 50s and 60s than there are currently.

Quite, in fact I was wondering the other day if any of the cacti we were persuaded to plant in Lincs in the 90's semi droughts are alive today? Climates always change, we're human , adapt. I wonder if the ancients stopped chopping down trees to stop the channel cutting them off from the main land? And what did salmon do when the mouth of the Rhine moved from the Thames to its present day position?