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[woody1]

Good to hear that the Reichsleiter's father, who's a student of history apparently, thinks that Yaxley-Lennon will be Prime Minister.

Perhaps he's writing his Mein Kampf while he's in prison.

[woody1]

So, Yaxley-Lennon is convicted, Musk supports him, Farage is heartbroken, because he thought Musk loved him, Tate is setting up his own political party.

Sounds like the plot from a spoof soap opera. And, funnily enough, there were Tates in the 70s sitcom.

This is starting to get fun. Hopefully Musk keeps upping the ante with his ranting and raving tweets at 3 in the morning fuelled by Ketamine.

[vetran]

Good to hear that the Reichsleiter's father, who's a student of history apparently, thinks that Yaxley-Lennon will be Prime Minister.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/new...-b2674961.html

Get locked up - Great Career move?

What next political opinions from Britney Spears?

[DoctorStrangelove]

Good to hear that the Reichsleiter's father, who's a student of history apparently, thinks that Yaxley-Lennon will be Prime Minister.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/new...-b2674961.html

[WTFH]

So, Yaxley-Lennon is convicted, Musk supports him, Farage is heartbroken, because he thought Musk loved him, Tate is setting up his own political party.

Which one do you support?

[vetran]

So your evidence is The Telegraph, Ipsos and Daily Mail?

The Telegraph and Daily Mail can be relied upon to put as negative a spin as possible on any story about Labour.

Ipsos are general slightly left of centre so is more interesting. Your link says:

• Starmer's ratings compare unfavourably to previous Prime Ministers at similar points in their first terms. His -34 net satisfaction score brings him into the same league as Gordon Brown (-23), Rishi Sunak (-22), Boris Johnson (-20), and Margaret Thatcher (-3) as Prime Ministers whose net satisfaction scores have gone into the negatives after just five months.
• Similarly, the government's -49 rating puts it on a par with Boris Johnson’s Government 5 months in (-49), but ahead of Rishi Sunak’s Government (-61).

So his Starmer's personal ratings are lower than others at a similar stage (obviously Truss didn't last this long so isn't listed) but the government ratings are in line with what one would expect.

You do understand that -34 is a lot lower rating than -3. I wonder if "the far right" (the ones our brave comrade hasn't sent to a Gulag) will dance on Starmer's grave?

You are starting to break through the bottom of the Barrel!

[SueEllen]

So your evidence is The Telegraph, Ipsos and Daily Mail?

The Telegraph and Daily Mail can be relied upon to put as negative a spin as possible on any story about Labour.

Ipsos are general slightly left of centre so is more interesting. Your link says:

• Starmer's ratings compare unfavourably to previous Prime Ministers at similar points in their first terms. His -34 net satisfaction score brings him into the same league as Gordon Brown (-23), Rishi Sunak (-22), Boris Johnson (-20), and Margaret Thatcher (-3) as Prime Ministers whose net satisfaction scores have gone into the negatives after just five months.
• Similarly, the government's -49 rating puts it on a par with Boris Johnson’s Government 5 months in (-49), but ahead of Rishi Sunak’s Government (-61).

So his Starmer's personal ratings are lower than others at a similar stage (obviously Truss didn't last this long so isn't listed) but the government ratings are in line with what one would expect.

"There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

[northernladuk]

Maybe things would have been different if the Tories had got back in but who knows..

I very much doubt it. There are some tough decisions and a new direction that needs taking and I don't think any of the mainstream parties have the gaul to do it. It will be just more of the same until something radical happens. I think that tipping point is coming fast but the fix to that won't be good either. I've no idea what way to turn anymore.

[woody1]

Well it is clear the direction of growth has changed to negative under labour. Maybe it will improve but admitting we have a problem and telling the truth helps.

There is actually an alternative to your choices. Recession tested and likely to work.

The new deal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guide...kty/revision/4

Building our way out 0of recession is pretty obvious. We need green energy, decent housing, better transport and technology industries it seems obvious.It can pay for itself if we are careful.

The hard choices I gave were if the economy doesn't grow at a decent rate.

I agree something a bit radical is needed to lift this country out of the slow lane.

[vetran]

Maybe things would have been different if the Tories had got back in but who knows.

Trouble is, the anaemic growth we've had for years is just not enough to sustain ever growing public spending. The hard choices are cut (austerity), raise taxes, or borrow.

Really growing the economy (eg. 3% YoY) is the only way out of this malaise.

Well it is clear the direction of growth has changed to negative under labour. Maybe it will improve but admitting we have a problem and telling the truth helps.

There is actually an alternative to your choices. Recession tested and likely to work.

The new deal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guide...kty/revision/4

Building our way out 0of recession is pretty obvious. We need green energy, decent housing, better transport and technology industries it seems obvious.It can pay for itself if we are careful.

[DoctorStrangelove]

oh I thought it was Starmer's nickname "special K" had forgotten Musk was medicated.

There's a long history of various "Doctor Feelgoods". . Kennedy & Nixon both had history of such.

Goodness knows what the Moronic Orange Fuhrer is on. .

[woody1]

No that Labour were in fact given a growing if fragile economy in May, since the budget indications are that it is now shrinking that may be why public support is dropping.

Maybe things would have been different if the Tories had got back in but who knows.

Trouble is, the anaemic growth we've had for years is just not enough to sustain ever growing public spending. The hard choices are cut (austerity), raise taxes, or borrow.

Really growing the economy (eg. 3% YoY) is the only way out of this malaise.

[vetran]

So what you're saying is that Labour are doing a great job?

No that Labour were in fact given a growing if fragile economy in May, since the budget indications are that it is now shrinking that may be why public support is dropping.

[Uncle Albert]

hmm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68989270

So what you're saying is that Labour are doing a great job?

[Uncle Albert]

I'm not poorly informed like you.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...n-forty-years/



https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/dissatis...-labour-leader



and just for Gigs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tory-poll.html

So your evidence is The Telegraph, Ipsos and Daily Mail?

The Telegraph and Daily Mail can be relied upon to put as negative a spin as possible on any story about Labour.

Ipsos are general slightly left of centre so is more interesting. Your link says:

• Starmer's ratings compare unfavourably to previous Prime Ministers at similar points in their first terms. His -34 net satisfaction score brings him into the same league as Gordon Brown (-23), Rishi Sunak (-22), Boris Johnson (-20), and Margaret Thatcher (-3) as Prime Ministers whose net satisfaction scores have gone into the negatives after just five months.
• Similarly, the government's -49 rating puts it on a par with Boris Johnson’s Government 5 months in (-49), but ahead of Rishi Sunak’s Government (-61).

So his Starmer's personal ratings are lower than others at a similar stage (obviously Truss didn't last this long so isn't listed) but the government ratings are in line with what one would expect.