Reply to: Drivers who litter, be warned

[SueEllen]

Thing is it would be preferable to just chuck/kick it aside in many cases, so it can break down. It seems a lot of effort to deliberately bag it then hang on a tree.

We just ask our local councillor and she gets one sorted out. I feel people make these things a lot harder for themselves than they need to be. Finding your local person is a huge benefit over contacting the council, as they will likely know the area and have a vested interest.

Councillors can be contacted though theyworkforyou.com as well.

Some councillors however don't reply which is why you may have to engage with your local MP.

[d000hg]

Maybe some bag it up and hang it on a branch with the intention of collecting it at the end of the walk. I'd imagine that wouldonly account for a minority, though. The rest are counting on the services of the poop fairy.

Thing is it would be preferable to just chuck/kick it aside in many cases, so it can break down. It seems a lot of effort to deliberately bag it then hang on a tree.

Work out a location to put the bin so it can be easily emptied by a passing council truck then send the email.

When the council doesn't reply or replies without a clear "yes" contact your MP - theyworkforyou.com - pointing out that you even worked out a possible location.

If you have local press get them involved.

We just ask our local councillor and she gets one sorted out. I feel people make these things a lot harder for themselves than they need to be. Finding your local person is a huge benefit over contacting the council, as they will likely know the area and have a vested interest.

[SueEllen]

That might be worth a stern email to the council along with some photos.

qh

Work out a location to put the bin so it can be easily emptied by a passing council truck then send the email.

When the council doesn't reply or replies without a clear "yes" contact your MP - theyworkforyou.com - pointing out that you even worked out a possible location.

If you have local press get them involved.

[Whorty]

Now pair that up with drive through fast food places printing reg numbers on the packaging and we'll be getting somewhere.

I like it

[OwlHoot]

I think mandatory litter picking would be more effective for repeat offenders.

I think mandatory rubbish bag sorting in a stinky local landfill site would be better, surrounded by hordes of rats and deafening flocks of hungry seagulls!

[Gould The Swimmer]

I don't get why people make the effort to carry bags and pick it up, which is the gross part, and do this. There must be a reason, I mean if you just don't care why would you even have bags with you?

Maybe some bag it up and hang it on a branch with the intention of collecting it at the end of the walk. I'd imagine that wouldonly account for a minority, though. The rest are counting on the services of the poop fairy.

[d000hg]

I'm not sure if it was on CUK or FB, but I saw a suggestion that McDonalds (maybe others) print the vehicle registration on drive-through order bags.

[quackhandle]

Have you campaigned for a bin to be put on the path?

That might be worth a stern email to the council along with some photos.

qh

[d000hg]

There are some places where there is a distinct lack of bins for no sensible reason (other than councils not wanting to pay for them to be emptied) and so lazy people dump their rubbish rather than do the right thing. Hammersmith tube station has a sign urging people to use the bins yet underneath said sign, where the bin should be, the bin has been removed.

Most of the time it's really no hardship to take your rubbish with you. Other times it's a minor inconvenience.

While I don't condone it, pragmatically I can understand people littering when there is no bin. Nobody wants to carry a nearly-empty fisn'n'chips box or melted ice cream wrapper around... I certainly don't carry a bag with me at all times just in case. People shouldn't litter if there's no bin, and I don't, but realistically many will and it's daft to pretend otherwise.

There's two groups, those who will litter if they can't see a bin and those who will litter regardless. The latter are the bigger problem IMO. Although around here we have had bins removed because they keep getting set fire to FFS.

[ladymuck]

There are some places where there is a distinct lack of bins for no sensible reason (other than councils not wanting to pay for them to be emptied) and so lazy people dump their rubbish rather than do the right thing. Hammersmith tube station has a sign urging people to use the bins yet underneath said sign, where the bin should be, the bin has been removed.

Most of the time it's really no hardship to take your rubbish with you. Other times it's a minor inconvenience.

[d000hg]

I did a 5 mile walk yesterday with a bag of dog poop in one hand. Ended up driving all the way back home with it. Really gets my goat these people who just leave them tied to the branches of a tree like some fairy's going to come along whilst we're all asleep.

I don't get why people make the effort to carry bags and pick it up, which is the gross part, and do this. There must be a reason, I mean if you just don't care why would you even have bags with you?

[d000hg]

Excellent. Can't understand why these barstewards do it, hardly a problem to take it home and bin it.

It must be a cultural thing because you will see teenagers sat next to a bin, or even ON a bin, deliberately throw their rubbish on the floor. Typical teen rebellion? Looking 'cool' by acting badly?
People doing it from cars, I guess it comes from the above in many cases - it becomes engrained behaviour that isn't given a second thought.

It really is such a pointless shame. We live in the countryside between two villages and every verge is drifted in cans and crisp packets and McDonalds bags. I mean at least fly-tipping is done for a reason, but littering is senseless.

I have no idea how you would even start to change a multi-generational culture of littering (or anything else) though. Kids see their parents toss rubbish out of the car, so they naturally learn to do the same.

[HoofHearted]

Have you campaigned for a bin to be put on the path?

They will just ignore it like the lowlifes they are. We have plenty of bins around which people ignore, even to the extent of dropping their bag close by. No amount of bins will alter their attitude :-(

[vetran]

So QH's house is now referred to as the Tuliphole?

[SueEllen]

I am having big issues with this at side of my house with a path that literally goes no where. I mean you've done the hard part by picking it up and bagging it.

Time to get the camera out and name and shame.

qh disgusted of Tunbridge Wells

Have you campaigned for a bin to be put on the path?