Reply to: That Welsh Gibberish....

[malvolio]

There's tidy then, boyo, nice coat that jacket.

Thanks for not disappointing.

[DoctorStrangelove]

There's tidy then, boyo, nice coat that jacket.

[malvolio]

Last night's "Am Dro" was funny as feck when the north Walians couldn't understand Y Cymraeg* of the south Walians to the extent of confusing "little hill" with "sex".

Easily done with the wrong type of sheep of course.

*There may be a mutation required there but I can't be arsed to look it up, it's 50 years since Welsh GCE 'O' level.

The dialects of Wales: How one country has five different words for the same thing - Wales Online

Then again, as I said, I'm from Pembrokeshire. We have our own dialect down there that's part Welsh, part-English and part Flemish (among others). "The grip in the haggar" wouldn't make much sense to anyone outside the county!

But I travelled all over France in the day, and they have major regional variations as well. As do the English - how's your Geordie?

[BrilloPad]

I always have to order my socks in M&S. They only stock small sizes. The Welsh are too short.

[DoctorStrangelove]

Yes, but the Welsh Government is heavily committed to extending the use of Welsh so any even vaguely public sector roles will have a knowledge of Welsh as a prime requirement (although you don't have to be fluent, they are that realistic about it!).

I did some work for the Welsh Govt in Cardiff a while back and had to go though all sorts of meetings when they took on board a previously separate Welsh Language promotion society whoi naturally enough wanted everything from the website to the service desk to run in Welsh. An early slightly prickly meeting was defused when I pointed out (in my very bad Welsh) that I don't speak welsh since I'm from Pembrokeshire. That got appreciative nods and much better cooperation from then on!

Last night's "Am Dro" was funny as feck when the north Walians couldn't understand Y Cymraeg* of the south Walians to the extent of confusing "little hill" with "sex".

Easily done with the wrong type of sheep of course.

*There may be a mutation required there but I can't be arsed to look it up, it's 50 years since Welsh GCE 'O' level.

The dialects of Wales: How one country has five different words for the same thing - Wales Online

[northernladuk]

That Welsh Gibberish....

It's what PC posts so guess he's got a point.

[vetran]

Not the ones I've met in Paris.

What did you do to upset them

Been to Paris plenty of times for Pleasure & Business, they almost always appreciated the effort but frequently switch to excellent American English because they consume so many Hollywood movies.

A good friend is from a village just outside Paris an she & her family love taking the mick out of our French.

[SueEllen]

Even Parisians.

Not the ones I've met in Paris.

[vetran]

People are always happy when you speak their language even if it is badly except Parisians...

Even Parisians.

[SueEllen]

Yes, but the Welsh Government is heavily committed to extending the use of Welsh so any even vaguely public sector roles will have a knowledge of Welsh as a prime requirement (although you don't have to be fluent, they are that realistic about it!).

I did some work for the Welsh Govt in Cardiff a while back and had to go though all sorts of meetings when they took on board a previously separate Welsh Language promotion society whoi naturally enough wanted everything from the website to the service desk to run in Welsh. An early slightly prickly meeting was defused when I pointed out (in my very bad Welsh) that I don't speak welsh since I'm from Pembrokeshire. That got appreciative nods and much better cooperation from then on!

People are always happy when you speak their language even if it is badly except Parisians...

[malvolio]

They also use it as "positive" discrimination to exclude non welsh speakers from some posts.

Yes, but the Welsh Government is heavily committed to extending the use of Welsh so any even vaguely public sector roles will have a knowledge of Welsh as a prime requirement (although you don't have to be fluent, they are that realistic about it!).

I did some work for the Welsh Govt in Cardiff a while back and had to go though all sorts of meetings when they took on board a previously separate Welsh Language promotion society whoi naturally enough wanted everything from the website to the service desk to run in Welsh. An early slightly prickly meeting was defused when I pointed out (in my very bad Welsh) that I don't speak welsh since I'm from Pembrokeshire. That got appreciative nods and much better cooperation from then on!

[d000hg]

They also use it as "positive" discrimination to exclude non welsh speakers from some posts.

As long we we can require people in English jobs speak English, let the Welsh do that.

[vetran]

They pretend to care when the English are around!

I know some great Welsh people. Oddly the biggest issue with Wales is the local councils. I know they are bad in England - the situation is worse in Wales.

They also use it as "positive" discrimination to exclude non welsh speakers from some posts.

[vetran]

IF people actually listen to spoken Welsh, they may find it has a truly musical lilt to it. Of course, you have to know how to pronounce it, and get your head around a different alphabet. "A allaf ei helpu os ydych chi'n dwp " looks awful but has a certain ring to it when read out loud...

Have to agree with BP about the Southern ones though, although I would limit it to the bit south of the valleys from Swansea to Newport. Not a lot of affluence up the Western side of Wales either.

Indeed even a welsh man speaking English has a lovely lilt, try Sir Tom Jones when he is reminiscing.

Welsh & Scottish Gaelic does sound a bit alien but then so does Catalan and Scouse. The world would be poorer without them in it.

[BrilloPad]

A load of PC nonsense. I doubt the Welsh even care.

They pretend to care when the English are around!

I know some great Welsh people. Oddly the biggest issue with Wales is the local councils. I know they are bad in England - the situation is worse in Wales.