Reply to: DOOM: Anyone going to Church today?

[d000hg]

Let them die, and God will sort them out.

Pastor Who Defied Social Distancing Dies After Contracting Covid-19, Church Says - The New York Times

I know believers - old and vulnerable - who do hold that view. They see little point living holed up alone and miserable just for the sake of existing as long as possible, they'd rather attend church and risk dying.
Rarely can we apply the motto "live fast die young" to octogenarians but several are pretty much at the "to hell[sic] with it" point now.

[Old Greg]

It would likely depend how long the bans are in place. And how well-reasoned the bans are - if we get to the point you can go to the pub and go to a football match but church services are restricted, I think we might see such 'rebellion' becoming more widespread especially given churches have already invested in plastic screens, detailed risk assessments, etc.
Churches are faced with very confusing information, much of it guidance not law. Which makes "give to Caesar" complicated to navigate, and invites debate about what believers are required by their teachings to do and what they like to do... e.g. communion, singing, physical gatherings.

It should also be noted there are legitimate, credible legal challenges in place, to the extent government can restrict places of worship. No idea how they are going.

I don't know of anyone local to me breaking the rules, which I'm surprised by as I know some pretty fundamentalist conservative types. Maybe they are and I wasn't invited

Let them die, and God will sort them out.

Pastor Who Defied Social Distancing Dies After Contracting Covid-19, Church Says - The New York Times

[d000hg]

Bunch of idiots. (Those meeting). They probably are into the conspiracy theories. It's fine to break the law to meet when the ban on is on the church meeting as an attempt by the government to control believers, but simply as a matter of societal protection - I'm not convinced that meets the requirements of "appealing to a higher law".

All the churches in my area have online services and abide by the rules.

It would likely depend how long the bans are in place. And how well-reasoned the bans are - if we get to the point you can go to the pub and go to a football match but church services are restricted, I think we might see such 'rebellion' becoming more widespread especially given churches have already invested in plastic screens, detailed risk assessments, etc.
Churches are faced with very confusing information, much of it guidance not law. Which makes "give to Caesar" complicated to navigate, and invites debate about what believers are required by their teachings to do and what they like to do... e.g. communion, singing, physical gatherings.

It should also be noted there are legitimate, credible legal challenges in place, to the extent government can restrict places of worship. No idea how they are going.

I don't know of anyone local to me breaking the rules, which I'm surprised by as I know some pretty fundamentalist conservative types. Maybe they are and I wasn't invited

[Old Greg]

Unless its a travellers funeral.

Or an IRA man.

[Old Greg]

I am not religious in the slightest, but I find it terrible that we have ended up a country where a church must organise to meet in secret because the government of the day has banned such gatherings.

WGAS how you feel.

[GregRickshaw]

I am not religious in the slightest, but I find it terrible that we have ended up a country where a church must organise to meet in secret because the government of the day has banned such gatherings.

Yeah how dare the government try to protect us from a deadly disease. Outrageous!

[Paralytic]

And how did that end?

He got a nice look book deal out of it.

[NotAllThere]

Is the collection via PayPal?

No. Church tax. Which I don't pay because I'm not a Catholic nor Calvinist. Although they do take collections for third parties. You can donate by paypal or direct bank payment.

[Paddy]

Bunch of idiots. (Those meeting). They probably are into the conspiracy theories. It's fine to break the law to meet when the ban on is on the church meeting as an attempt by the government to control believers, but simply as a matter of societal protection - I'm not convinced that meets the requirements of "appealing to a higher law".

All the churches in my area have online services and abide by the rules.

Is the collection via PayPal?

[NotAllThere]

Bunch of idiots. (Those meeting). They probably are into the conspiracy theories. It's fine to break the law to meet when the ban on is on the church meeting as an attempt by the government to control believers, but simply as a matter of societal protection - I'm not convinced that meets the requirements of "appealing to a higher law".

All the churches in my area have online services and abide by the rules.

[AtW]

Unless its a travellers funeral.

it's

[vetran]

However, there are stiff penalties for non-compliance.

Unless its a travellers funeral.

[Whorty]

You can have 30 people at a funeral though...

Only if social distancing is followed and the location of the funeral can support this. Else the funeral should be the size the location can support.

[Paddy]

You can have 30 people at a funeral though...

However, there are stiff penalties for non-compliance.

[SueEllen]

You can have 30 people at a funeral though...

That's good. At least the OAPs they kill will have a good send off.