Reply to: Be very wary of accepting tenants on universal credit

[SueEllen]

Actually my dislike is woolly thinking and an inability to reach the logical end consequence of a suggestion. Everything you've posted is trying to circumnavigate yourself away from the logical end point of your initial statement...

In your world view.

[eek]

That's because everything in your world view is black and white.

There are good reasons why landlords who won't take on tenants on benefits will rent a property to one particular person on benefits but you clearly haven't met anyone like that.

You also don't seem to notice that PurpleGorilla has a history of slamming landlords regardless of what the actual topic is about even though he lives in a house with a mortgage.

Actually my dislike is woolly thinking and an inability to reach the logical end consequence of a suggestion. Everything you've posted is trying to circumnavigate yourself away from the logical end point of your initial statement...

[SueEllen]

Yet you are still happy to state:

"go ahead and do it if you wish, but at your own risk and don't say I didn't warn you, of accepting tenants on universal credit"

and fail to comprehend that the end result of your statement will be more people being homeless which clearly you object to



My point was that you are

1) telling people that its a risk to accept tenants on housing benefit

2) but yet dislike the fact that be wary may result in people said people on universal credit end up being homeless as everyone is too wary to accept them...

In small words as clearly your comprehension skills are better than your logical thought ones...

That's because everything in your world view is black and white.

There are good reasons why landlords who won't take on tenants on benefits will rent a property to one particular person on benefits but you clearly haven't met anyone like that.

You also don't seem to notice that PurpleGorilla has a history of slamming landlords regardless of what the actual topic is about even though he lives in a house with a mortgage.

[eek]

I'm glad some people have reading comprehension skills above those of an 11 year old.

Most people's reading comprehension skills in the UK are around 9.

Yet you are still happy to state:

"go ahead and do it if you wish, but at your own risk and don't say I didn't warn you, of accepting tenants on universal credit"

and fail to comprehend that the end result of your statement will be more people being homeless which clearly you object to

So you rather more people where homeless?

My point was that you are

1) telling people that its a risk to accept tenants on housing benefit

2) but yet dislike the fact that be wary may result in people said people on universal credit end up being homeless as everyone is too wary to accept them...

In small words as clearly your comprehension skills are better than your logical thought ones...

[GJABS]

So you blame your parents for your behaviour?

I tell you, if my father had an account on here, and started spouting some of his stuff, he'd be banned ten times in five minutes

[SueEllen]

"Be very wary" does not mean the same as "do not". "Be very wary" means "go ahead and do it if you wish, but at your own risk and don't say I didn't warn you."
That said, I wouldn't rent to anyone on benefits, mainly because they don't care about their credit rating, whereas private tenants do care, very much, so they'll be less inclined to sit tight and wait for the courts to do their thing.

I'm glad some people have reading comprehension skills above those of an 11 year old.

Most people's reading comprehension skills in the UK are around 9.

[vetran]

So you blame your parents for your behaviour?

Nah we blame your parents for yours

[NotAllThere]

Will somebody think of psycocandy

I'd rather not.

People by default are born selfish, with a lack of discipline. This is ironed out of them by a decent upbringing..

So you blame your parents for your behaviour?

[xoggoth]

Rather less regulation and more reliance on the private sector seems to have worked rather well in Germany:

https://qz.com/167887/germany-has-on...nership-rates/

[vetran]

If you scale up the Newham study, HALF of all landlords don’t declare the tax income.

https://www.ft.com/content/9efa9f2a-...e-15b2513cb3ff

Do me a favour about providing a service. All BTL landlords give a tulip about is yield. Even when tax evading.

Leeches.

QED.

That is a problem, of course they should pay tax. They should provide a decent service. They should be prosecuted if they don't.

But I repeat

1. They are not the cause of the housing shortage (the clue is in the name Buy to LET).
2. If they were not there about 15-20% of people in the UK would be unable to rent.

You arguing with your landlord does not make them all bar stewards and cheats. You being a tenant does not make you rent avoiding, noisy scumbag.

[PurpleGorilla]

well if the Government hadn't sold off all the housing stock, managed its users better, Helped identify the problem tenants (there are plenty of nice people on benefits) let fewer people in the country and built more houses then we wouldn't be in this mess.

Of course no one in the government is going to take any responsibility so its all the fault of the "Baby Boomers" being mean to the "Millenials" - I must have missed that meeting where we decided to do them over.

Or its disgusting landlords expecting to make a profit on their investment not giving PG free lodging like his Mum & Dad did.

I was at lunch with 20 people of which over half were first or second generation immigrants. The lack of housing was a strong topic of conversation, I bit my tongue multiple times rather than offend.

I had two 25-30 year olds complaining about the price of houses and how it was unfair they didn't have a house. The French lass was particularly upset, I note she has a French flat and now wants an English one, she sees no irony or problem with that.

Now individually they are lovely people but they won't acknowledge that immigration and government failure to plan for it is a large portion of the problem.

If you take away the effect of immigration there would be too many houses because we were falling below population replacement level.

PG you will probably find Landlords aren't particularly keen on tenants with a massive chip on their shoulder like you. But without them you would have nowhere to rent.

The fact that many bad tenants are on Benefits is unfortunate but that is why we have social services, social housing & benefit offices. Landlords are businesses not charities. Do try popping down to a Bupa hospital and ask for them to take the log out of your eye for free!

If you scale up the Newham study, HALF of all landlords don’t declare the tax income.

https://www.ft.com/content/9efa9f2a-...e-15b2513cb3ff

Do me a favour about providing a service. All BTL landlords give a tulip about is yield. Even when tax evading.

Leeches.

QED.

[WTFH]

People by default are born selfish, with a lack of discipline. This is ironed out of them by a decent upbringing, and failing that a society that punishes them for behaving in that manner. Unfortunately today's society has removed that punishment, so those people are the unemployed, refuse to pay any rent, and trash the properties that anyone unwisely rents to them.

you blame “society”, I blame parents. If parents won’t bring up their children well, but choose to blame schools and society, rather than accepting that the time they spent making money rather than spending it bringup their children - that’s where the blame lies.

[Mordac]

From the thread title

Be very wary of accepting tenants = do not rent to...

I will leave it to you to explain how be very wary does not mean do not...

"Be very wary" does not mean the same as "do not". "Be very wary" means "go ahead and do it if you wish, but at your own risk and don't say I didn't warn you."
That said, I wouldn't rent to anyone on benefits, mainly because they don't care about their credit rating, whereas private tenants do care, very much, so they'll be less inclined to sit tight and wait for the courts to do their thing.

[GJABS]

People by default are born selfish, with a lack of discipline. This is ironed out of them by a decent upbringing, and failing that a society that punishes them for behaving in that manner. Unfortunately today's society has removed that punishment, so those people are the unemployed, refuse to pay any rent, and trash the properties that anyone unwisely rents to them.

[eek]

Please quote my words that said exactly that.

From the thread title

Be very wary of accepting tenants = do not rent to...

I will leave it to you to explain how be very wary does not mean do not...