Reply to: Leaving a club

[NigelJK]

Fair point (see Education bill currently under scrutiny in the Lord). Choice of 2 smallish (with some accountabilty) or 3 with one being far more corrupt and unaccountable that the other 2.

[WTFH]

Leaving a club

We have a choice between having one corrupt administration or two.

Do you mean the Commons and the Lords?

[vetran]

FTFY...

you think New Lie were any more honest?

We have a choice between having one corrupt administration or two.

[darmstadt]

you know the word Cartel doesn't just apply to drugs?

Just like corruption, disorganised, arrogant don't just apply to the current Tory administration.

FTFY...

[vetran]

Here's an idea. Why don't you put "the EU is a cartel not a club" in your signature, to save you having to type it over and over and over again? Since people don't read signatures it would serve the additional purpose of making it easier to ignore.

Go and live in South America for a while and decide how you feel about cartels.

you know the word Cartel doesn't just apply to drugs?

Just like corruption, disorganised, arrogant don't just apply to the EU.

[d000hg]

fair enough.

But as its a cartel not a club we need to change the analogy.

how about :

All visitors need to supply stuffed brown envelopes.

Only the 3 Cartel founders decide the rules.

Here's an idea. Why don't you put "the EU is a cartel not a club" in your signature, to save you having to type it over and over and over again? Since people don't read signatures it would serve the additional purpose of making it easier to ignore.

Go and live in South America for a while and decide how you feel about cartels.

[PurpleGorilla]

It's not actually about tariffs it's about the bureacracy involved in getting export licences, goods being held up at customs and being allowed to sell your services eg banking and insurance.

The UK doesn't want to be regulated by Europe but actually all major companies will still be regulated by the EU if they want to sell to the EU, and not only that, they'll have to fight tooth and nail to prove they do satisfy regulations. The EU makes it easy to import the sort of goods they get from China i.e. textiles, but very difficult import goods such as machinery and cars. So when someone says China doesn't have a problem exporting to the EU, that's true, but that's because they've developed export companies that sell goods the EU doesn't make any more and are not protected and where it's easy to get export licences.

Resistance is fEUtile

[AtW]

Says the man that missed out on a decade of housing boom, and cannot manage to order a sofa.

I've chosen to invest money in my business instead, could not have done so if I had a mortgage. If you factor in mortgage interest, then over 20 years you'd pay double the price of house, it would double in value, but so what, you've paid for it! In the meantime I also own now what I like and still have no mortgage. I guess I've chosen much risky path, but who cares if you are a winner?

As for the sofa, nobody is perfect...

[BlasterBates]

Because like the Canadians and other nations we want to trade tariff free - just without all the tulip

If that is unacceptable - fine : we will adapt. But we will succeed

It's not actually about tariffs it's about the bureacracy involved in getting export licences, goods being held up at customs and being allowed to sell your services eg banking and insurance.

The UK doesn't want to be regulated by Europe but actually all major companies will still be regulated by the EU if they want to sell to the EU, and not only that, they'll have to fight tooth and nail to prove they do satisfy regulations. The EU makes it easy to import the sort of goods they get from China i.e. textiles, but very difficult import goods such as machinery and cars. So when someone says China doesn't have a problem exporting to the EU, that's true, but that's because they've developed export companies that sell goods the EU doesn't make any more and are not protected and where it's easy to get export licences.

[shaunbhoy]

You won't succeed in organizing a piss up in a brewery, never mind something very complex like Brexit, loser.

Says the man that missed out on a decade of housing boom, and cannot manage to order a sofa.

[AtW]

Because like the Canadians and other nations we want to trade tariff free - just without all the tulip If that is unacceptable - fine : we will adapt. But we will succeed

You won't succeed in organizing a piss up in a brewery, never mind something very complex like Brexit, loser.

Tip - when negotiating with a 800 lb gorilla you don't say what you want, you politely ask what 800 lb gorilla wants.

[PurpleGorilla]

Leaving a club

Why do you care?

You've decided to leave the cartel (or club), they will decide the rules however they fooking feel like it - should have stayed part of the cartel.

Lay in the bed you made, next time don't put rusty nails in it.

Because like the Canadians and other nations we want to trade tariff free - just without all the tulip

If that is unacceptable - fine : we will adapt. But we will succeed

[AtW]

Only the 3 Cartel founders decide the rules.

Why do you care?

You've decided to leave the cartel (or club), they will decide the rules however they fooking feel like it - should have stayed part of the cartel.

Lay in the bed you made, next time don't put rusty nails in it.

[vetran]

All visitors have to abide by the rules of the club.

Only members have a say over shaping the rules.

fair enough.

But as its a cartel not a club we need to change the analogy.

how about :

All visitors need to supply stuffed brown envelopes.

Only the 3 Cartel founders decide the rules.

[AtW]

Actually that would be criminal damage and illegal. Now if you have the right signs up the club could clamp them.

Aye, clamp 'em.