Reply to: TV reporters shot dead in live TV broadcast

[Scruff]

Let's be careful out there.

"Hill Street Blues" takes me back...

[EternalOptimist]

Any second now the streets will be full of rioting white people shouting 'whitelivesmatter'

[SueEllen]

Personally I think all the gun nuts in the US should be given their own island well away from the rest of civilization where they can happily shoot each other until none are left. Problem solved then.

The problem in the US and Canada is that lots of people live where their nearest neighbours are miles away let alone the emergency services and the local wild life e.g. bear, moose would easily kill'/injury them. (Also animals themselves need to be put down quickly if they are injured.)

While Canadians are sensible and know the difference in having a gun for dealing with l wild animals and ones for shooting humans, the US gun lobby demand to have every gun going as it's their constitutional right.

Canadians who hunt attitude to guns is soo different from people to the US....

[Platypus]

If you watch it closely, she's making almost constant eye contact with the interviewee, which is after all her job. She might have registered with the corner of her eye that somebody had approached and was standing just behind the cameraman, and even detected that they were gesturing in some manner, but you get that all the time when filming TV in public. If you do that every day for a living, you're not going to let yourself be distracted by something like that. In fact, you probably hardly even register it. All your focus will be on looking right for the camera, which in this case meant continuing to look attentively at the women in front of her.

As for the running away after being shot: it's a myth that people who are shot always just fall to the ground or are otherwise incapacitated. David Simon, in his book Homicide about spending a year with the Baltimore homicide squad, mentions that it's not uncommon for a gang member who's taken several shots directly in the torso to be found dead a number of blocks away from the scene of the shooting, having taken off running and carried on until their heart pretty much had nothing left to pump.

Thanks, Nick! Great clarifications.

[NickFitz]

The video was weird. He was hanging about right next to the cameraman for several moments before he fired. She must have seen him. He pointed the gun at her then pointed it somewhere else for a few seconds, I'm just amazed she didn't say "what the F***?" the moment he turned up. Although I've not seen anyone get actually shot before, the shooter appears to put two bullets in her as she turns to flee, yet she somehow manages to run several steps.

If you watch it closely, she's making almost constant eye contact with the interviewee, which is after all her job. She might have registered with the corner of her eye that somebody had approached and was standing just behind the cameraman, and even detected that they were gesturing in some manner, but you get that all the time when filming TV in public. If you do that every day for a living, you're not going to let yourself be distracted by something like that. In fact, you probably hardly even register it. All your focus will be on looking right for the camera, which in this case meant continuing to look attentively at the women in front of her.

As for the running away after being shot: it's a myth that people who are shot always just fall to the ground or are otherwise incapacitated. David Simon, in his book Homicide about spending a year with the Baltimore homicide squad, mentions that it's not uncommon for a gang member who's taken several shots directly in the torso to be found dead a number of blocks away from the scene of the shooting, having taken off running and carried on until their heart pretty much had nothing left to pump.

[Platypus]

Not saying people can't be killed by speeding cars but let's not suggest it's as easy to do as pulling a gun out of your pocket and shooting someone at point blank range.

The video was weird. He was hanging about right next to the cameraman for several moments before he fired. She must have seen him. He pointed the gun at her then pointed it somewhere else for a few seconds, I'm just amazed she didn't say "what the F***?" the moment he turned up. Although I've not seen anyone get actually shot before, the shooter appears to put two bullets in her as she turns to flee, yet she somehow manages to run several steps.

[d000hg]

Personally I think all the gun nuts in the US should be given their own island well away from the rest of civilization

Isn't that what North America is?


(I suppose the Canadians would have to move out)

[Willapp]

Without guns he could just as easily have run them down in a speeding car on live TV.

Well not really. It's pretty hard to sneak up on someone with a speeding car and there's every chance they would have seen/heard it approaching and got out of the way.

Not saying people can't be killed by speeding cars but let's not suggest it's as easy to do as pulling a gun out of your pocket and shooting someone at point blank range.

Personally I think all the gun nuts in the US should be given their own island well away from the rest of civilization where they can happily shoot each other until none are left. Problem solved then.

[CloudWalker]

Didn't the Shooter say he's was going to get a gun after the Church Shooting ?

[lilelvis2000]

WHS (belatedly) - it's just part of the culture over there.

The NRA press release will no doubt suggest that the solution would have been for everybody present there to be armed to the teeth - that the bulge at the back of her blouse/skirt occupied by the radio receiver (for the earpiece etc.) - should be taken up by a .44 Magnum instead.

Yeah, its their "be a good guy" motto. ie: be armed to the teeth.

So has the "failed mental health" excuse also come out too? How about the NSA failed to send his tweets and facebook rants to the authorities.

[NotAllThere]

...

I'm sure that Roger Waters wrote a song about that back in the 90s.

Thanks for that.

[Pondlife]

Inside every Kinder Egg is a dead minion.

You don't know that until you open the egg. Until this happens the minion is assumed to be both alive and dead.

[SimonMac]

No no. The solution is to make sure that all reporters everybody are armed.

FTFY

[Chuck]

I fear that this will spark a new trend in murder. It will create a new baseline for lunatics who want to kill someone to somehow get it broadcast on live television.

[NotAllThere]

The solution to this problem is to ban all firearms but obviously politicians wont bother with all that.

No no. The solution is to make sure that all reporters are armed.

and yet Kinder eggs are too dangerous to be sold and it's a $1200 fine per egg for importing them.

Inside every Kinder Egg is a dead minion.

In the aftermath there's people saying things like "She was loved by everyone". Well - obviously not everyone.

The reason why it's world news is because journalists love stories about journalists. It makes them feel that they're essential workers and heroes on the front line.