Reply to: Contract Teminated

[Paddy]

the client ended the contract. i contacted the agent and they told me that the client wanted to end and that was it. The agent told to redo my cv and email it to him and he will contact me when somethig else comes up. i looked at the contract and it does state that the client can end it with immiedate effect

Very strange, bill them for your time including a full day for the termination. You can bet your life that the agent will be charging the end client even if he does not pay you.

BTW; Get your shift key working or don’t expect replies if you can’t be bothered to type properly.

[TOSH1]

Who terminated you contract? You contract was probably with the agent, if that is so only the agent can end it not the end client.

the client ended the contract. i contacted the agent and they told me that the client wanted to end and that was it. The agent told to redo my cv and email it to him and he will contact me when somethig else comes up. i looked at the contract and it does state that the client can end it with immiedate effect

[Paddy]

Who terminated you contract? You contract was probably with the agent, if that is so only the agent can end it not the end client.

[TOSH1]

Kandr is back!!

just been going through some previous chats and found what kandr is. No I am not him or her!

[Support Monkey]

I'm new to contracting. So what is kandr?

This was only my second contract. I was a permie for 10 years prior to that. I'm now thinking about why they may have terminiated the contract. Yes I did make a few personal phone calls, I also went on to the BBC website now and again to check the football results, did my banking as i did at my my previous permie job.

Don't twell on what might have been just move on and next time take a good Look around you, is it a corporate envirement rulled with a rod of iron then don't use the facilities for personal use, if it laid back and everyone does it then still be on your guard but you may be ok to use for personal within reason, its all about adapting to your current surrounding

[eek]

I'm new to contracting. So what is kandr?

This was only my second contract. I was a permie for 10 years prior to that. I'm now thinking about why they may have terminiated the contract. Yes I did make a few personal phone calls, I also went on to the BBC website now and again to check the football results, did my banking as i did at my my previous permie job.

You are a contractor don't use a work computer for non work related items. In this day and age get an ipad or smart phone and use that for surfing.

Actually get an ipad and fill it with electronic computer books. Its a great excuse if you get asked why you use it all the time (may not work for a c# code monkey but it does when I'm supposedly doing crm or management stuff).

[TOSH1]

Same here - I didn't think any contractor would want notice put in their contract

I wonder if OP is kandr.

I'm new to contracting. So what is kandr?

This was only my second contract. I was a permie for 10 years prior to that. I'm now thinking about why they may have terminiated the contract. Yes I did make a few personal phone calls, I also went on to the BBC website now and again to check the football results, did my banking as i did at my my previous permie job.

[northernladuk]

In a proper B2B relationship, a long notice period is entirely reasonable. Say a company Tesco use to make their own-brand products... they need to be tied in several months' in advance. I'm sure there are more apt service-based examples, like if Tesco use an external company to manage their website - again if that company gives a week's notice they're leaving, this is entirely unreasonable with big in-progress projects.

Agreed, suppose it the difference between thinking like a business or just a 9 to 5 contractor. Nothing wrong in either approach if it suits you of course but highlights the difference in thinking.

[d000hg]

In a proper B2B relationship, a long notice period is entirely reasonable. Say a company Tesco use to make their own-brand products... they need to be tied in several months' in advance. I'm sure there are more apt service-based examples, like if Tesco use an external company to manage their website - again if that company gives a week's notice they're leaving, this is entirely unreasonable with big in-progress projects.

[craig1]

Same here - I didn't think any contractor would want notice put in their contract

I wonder if OP is kandr.

My current contract originally wanted 1 week for client, 1 month for me. As signed it is matched 1 week.

Last proper legal advice I got on this is that 1 week is fine as that allows both sides ample time to mutually terminate a typical contractor to client business relationship, more than 1 week starts to creep into employee territory, 1 month is firmly in employee territory. The only exception to that is if there are specialist tools or processes involved that require substantial set-up and dismantling efforts. Admittedly that advice is about 3-4 years old now and could be doing with being refreshed.

[MaryPoppins]

Nope, I try to negotiate zero notice, if that's not possible, no more than a week. Notice is for employees.

Same here - I didn't think any contractor would want notice put in their contract

I wonder if OP is kandr.

[Fred Bloggs]

As an aside to this discussion (such as it is...) a seven year long () IR35 case was won today by a PCG member. The key factor in the ruling was a demonstrable lack of Mutuality, as shown by his client's ability to terminate him without notice...

So hands up all those who demand four weeks notice in their contracts...

Nope, I try to negotiate zero notice, if that's not possible, no more than a week. Notice is for employees.

[malvolio]

As an aside to this discussion (such as it is...) a seven year long () IR35 case was won today by a PCG member. The key factor in the ruling was a demonstrable lack of Mutuality, as shown by his client's ability to terminate him without notice...

So hands up all those who demand four weeks notice in their contracts...

[pmeswani]

My contract was terminated yesterday. i was called into the office and 12pm and told that my contract is being terminated and to finish at 5pm. it was meant to run until March 2011 and to top it off i also had my contract re-viewed and just heard that i fall into the ir35.

What a great start to 2011!

You are aware that if you start a contract without signing it, then you are deemed to have accepted the contract, irrespective of the contract review? If you are aware, why bother getting your contract reviewed?

Sorry, your post doesn't make sense. It's no wonder you were terminated. Hasta la Vista.

[malvolio]

did it really take them 4 months to find out 'that i don't knwo what im doing' if thats the case maybe its them who dont what there doing!

"Knowing what you're doing" wrt contract law and IR35. I assume you're fully able to do the job itself!