Reply to: Jobserv : Personalise (address agent) each application..?

[northernladuk]

Totally agree.

One of my agents recently contacted me & agreed to submit my CV for a role. During that discussion she mentioned next day that role will be advertised in Jobsev as that is the company policy!. So by the time 100's started applying for that job in Jobserve, my CV is already reached client!

Why don't you call the agent back and ask them to walk you through how they work. Might be a good learning curve looking at the recent raft of posts about agency behaviour.

[Lance]

Totally agree.

One of my agents recently contacted me & agreed to submit my CV for a role. During that discussion she mentioned next day that role will be advertised in Jobsev as that is the company policy!. So by the time 100's started applying for that job in Jobserve, my CV is already reached client!

What feedback did you get from that?

[fool]

I don't bother. I don't really see the point in wasting each others time.

The majority of agents are just buzzword matchers. They'll open the CV and then ctrl f the keywords and if you match enough, they put you on a list to call.

The better agents aren't particularly put off by this approach either as they know the score and will tend to have you on a list of people to call when a role comes up.

Of course, if you're trying to push for a role that you can't easily match in buzzword bingo, calling the agent and explaining why whilst your skills don't pass an obvious match they do meet the general requirement and they might put you through to the client.

[Darren_Test]

If they do that they are likely fishing.

I've been sent roles via email and been put forward then 1-4 hours later seen the role appear on Jobserve with that tulip in it. In one case I even had an interview lined up before the role appeared on the job board.

Incidentally you may as well still apply as if your CV is interesting the agent will phone up to talk to you, and you will get on their mailing list to get the roles before they end up on the job board.

Totally agree.

One of my agents recently contacted me & agreed to submit my CV for a role. During that discussion she mentioned next day that role will be advertised in Jobsev as that is the company policy!. So by the time 100's started applying for that job in Jobserve, my CV is already reached client!

[SueEllen]

Lots of Jobswerve ads pre empt this approach. They dont give contact numbers or email addresses plus stick 'as we get so many applications, if you havent heard anything in 7 days blah, blah, blah.'

to answer the OP, no, most of them wont read the email.

If they do that they are likely fishing.

I've been sent roles via email and been put forward then 1-4 hours later seen the role appear on Jobserve with that tulip in it. In one case I even had an interview lined up before the role appeared on the job board.

Incidentally you may as well still apply as if your CV is interesting the agent will phone up to talk to you, and you will get on their mailing list to get the roles before they end up on the job board.

[WTFH]

Lots of Jobswerve ads pre empt this approach. They dont give contact numbers or email addresses plus stick 'as we get so many applications, if you havent heard anything in 7 days blah, blah, blah.'

to answer the OP, no, most of them wont read the email.

I wouldn't apply for that sort of role. If the agent doesn't know their job well enough to reveal contact details, I don't want to deal with them

[washed up contractor]

Have you spoken to the agent yet before sending your application in?

Lots of Jobswerve ads pre empt this approach. They dont give contact numbers or email addresses plus stick 'as we get so many applications, if you havent heard anything in 7 days blah, blah, blah.'

to answer the OP, no, most of them wont read the email.

[northernladuk]

but rarely agents allows discussions on role, most of the time it will be diverted to VM! if they take the call max then will do is standard response " we got 100s of CV for this job, we will review and contact you if your CV is suitable"

Usual level of pap achieved.

Have you ever stopped to consider that it might not be agents that are the real problem?

[gables]

but rarely agents allows discussions on role, most of the time it will be diverted to VM! if they take the call max then will do is standard response " we got 100s of CV for this job, we will review and contact you if your CV is suitable"

That's not my (very) recent experience, when I've called they seemed surprised and very happy talk about the role.

[SueEllen]

but rarely agents allows discussions on role, most of the time it will be diverted to VM! if they take the call max then will do is standard response " we got 100s of CV for this job, we will review and contact you if your CV is suitable"

You clearly haven't worked in sales or know people who have.

If you have, you know persistence pays off.

[Darren_Test]

Immediately? You call the agent to discuss the role before putting your CV in for it.
You submit your CV, wait a day then call them back to make sure they have, ask them what they think, and if they suggest it needs tweaking, you tweak it.

There is no silver bullet or short cuts. To increase your chances of getting put forward for a contract, you need to speak to the agent on the phone.

Any idiot can write and submit a CV. To rise above the level of idiot, you need to be proactive.

but rarely agents allows discussions on role, most of the time it will be diverted to VM! if they take the call max then will do is standard response " we got 100s of CV for this job, we will review and contact you if your CV is suitable"

[WTFH]

Jobserv : Personalise (address agent) each application..?

that is a 5 year project!..what can be done immediately...

Immediately? You call the agent to discuss the role before putting your CV in for it.
You submit your CV, wait a day then call them back to make sure they have, ask them what they think, and if they suggest it needs tweaking, you tweak it.

There is no silver bullet or short cuts. To increase your chances of getting put forward for a contract, you need to speak to the agent on the phone.

Any idiot can write and submit a CV. To rise above the level of idiot, you need to be proactive.

[northernladuk]

Most agencies scan CVs this way..??? if so how to get to the front of queue..?

http://theundercoverrecruiter.com/wp...ndidateapp.png

Again with the sweeping generalisations that you know nothing about.

[northernladuk]

that is a 5 year project!..what can be done immediately...BTW I had fights with nearly all agencies I worked in the past..

Why does that not surprise us.....

[Darren_Test]

By buttering up the agent long before they post a role.

that is a 5 year project!..what can be done immediately...BTW I had fights with nearly all agencies I worked in the past..