Reply to: State of the Market

[oliverson]

Objectively though the market has gone tougher overall, way less outside roles, the IR35 changes did the damage and other factors like interest rates / brexit etc. also played a part. Regardless of how good of a role you are in now and how lucky you were before, there's no denying currently the market is tulipe and will probably stay like this for a while.

I'm not denying the market is currently dreadful, I even posted on some thread, probably this one, that it really doesn't matter if you're not the one on the bench.

[Snooky]

The tories were not able to clean up the mess made by New labour the 13 years before that

So despite having 3 terms, the Tories weren't competent enough to get the country back on an even keel? Is that what you're telling us?

[Snooky]

Brexit! Jeez. Next you'll be saying Ukraine, Trump, blah, blah.

The reality is there's no growth, no business confidence, no future while this government of utter incompetence are calling the shots. NONE.

Spot on! Everything was just peachy before July, all those people who've now been on the bench 12 months were happily contracting and making loadsamoney.

Oh.....hang on

[Snooky]

Maybe due to doing more than less more often the times I get away with less never really get mentioned.

I've reads this sentence 3 times and I still don't understand it

[Fraidycat]

You don't half talk nonsense. You just sound bitter and twisted. Of course Brexit has had a big impact on things. If you don't think so then you obviously voted to leave and are deluded. And regarding Labour. For what it's worth I was a Tory voter all my life. Didn't vote for them after the Brexit fiasco or since. Highly unlikely I will ever vote for them again after the mess they have caused over the last 14 years. Which labour have to tidy up.

The tories were not able to clean up the mess made by New labour the 13 years before that. No chance that this lot will clean up the 27 year old mess. The UK is in managed decline. High taxes and low growth is all we have to look forward to now.

[SussexSeagull]

Here we go again. I am all for adapting but when there are next to no roles to go round then then it is of limited impact.

As for the government, the Conservatives were in for 14 years (including the coalition years) and Labour have been in for five months. I am not convinced matters have improved since July but it early days.

[avonleigh]

Brexit! Jeez. Next you'll be saying Ukraine, Trump, blah, blah.

The reality is there's no growth, no business confidence, no future while this government of utter incompetence are calling the shots. NONE.

You don't half talk nonsense. You just sound bitter and twisted. Of course Brexit has had a big impact on things. If you don't think so then you obviously voted to leave and are deluded. And regarding Labour. For what it's worth I was a Tory voter all my life. Didn't vote for them after the Brexit fiasco or since. Highly unlikely I will ever vote for them again after the mess they have caused over the last 14 years. Which labour have to tidy up.

[sadkingbilly]

Brexit! Jeez. Next you'll be saying Ukraine, Trump, blah, blah.

The reality is there's no growth, no business confidence, no future while this government of utter incompetence are calling the shots. NONE.

you don't even Live here do you? just another greedy self centered Tory.
nothing to see here.......

[dsc]

No, no, it HAS to be brexit.

On the whole the previous 14 years for me have been fantastic. Some peaks and some troughs, but on the whole it's been great. Currently on highest rate ever and that has the potential to rise significantly if the client's business plans come to fruition. 100% remote, outside IR35, good people and interesting work.

Objectively though the market has gone tougher overall, way less outside roles, the IR35 changes did the damage and other factors like interest rates / brexit etc. also played a part. Regardless of how good of a role you are in now and how lucky you were before, there's no denying currently the market is tulipe and will probably stay like this for a while.

[willendure]

The irony is that we're meant to be adaptable - isn't what we're encountering now just another set of circumstances to adapt to?

Absolutely! There have been times when finding a contract was easy, and times when it was hard. But every time I have found one, I have had to adapt in some way - figuring out what the market wants, learning new skills, figuring out where the demand is and what existing skills are now dead. The market might be slow just now, but when it does come back, it will come back different and it will still be necessary to adapt even if things are easier.

[oliverson]

Yes, because the previous 14 years were so fantastic weren't they?

There are some odd people on here who've completely failed to adapt or improve, and find it easy to blame everything on others.

No, no, it HAS to be brexit.

On the whole the previous 14 years for me have been fantastic. Some peaks and some troughs, but on the whole it's been great. Currently on highest rate ever and that has the potential to rise significantly if the client's business plans come to fruition. 100% remote, outside IR35, good people and interesting work.

[ensignia]

Brexit! Jeez. Next you'll be saying Ukraine, Trump, blah, blah.

The reality is there's no growth, no business confidence, no future while this government of utter incompetence are calling the shots. NONE.

Yes, because the previous 14 years were so fantastic weren't they?

There are some odd people on here who've completely failed to adapt or improve, and find it easy to blame everything on others.

[oliverson]

Can't all be blamed on outsourcing. IR35, Brexit, and cost of living crisis have all had massive impacts. But yes contracting is dead. Whether it ever recovers is anybody's guess. Don't think anyone can predict that with any certainty right now.

Brexit! Jeez. Next you'll be saying Ukraine, Trump, blah, blah.

The reality is there's no growth, no business confidence, no future while this government of utter incompetence are calling the shots. NONE.

[sadkingbilly]

The irony is that we're meant to be adaptable - isn't what we're encountering now just another set of circumstances to adapt to?

Adapt or die

[fatJock]

Which, knowing the place, is still running and still got a few years left.

Yeah I know a few folks who are still there - lots of perms were let go in a cull those few weeks ago.