Reply to: State of the Market

[founder]

The market is really quite good atm. I’m being a bit picky on rates, no discounts and still getting interviews. Plenty of low ballers still out there offering lockdown rates but they’ll figure it out soon.

yeah lowballers annoyng and also the fully remote ones still wanting a discount of £100 from re market outside

[TheDude]

I work with Scala and have never had so many approaches.

Some offering towards £1K per day however that could well be recruiter BS.

[Bluenose]

on an anonymous forum??

Admitting you have a problem or a concern is a big problem for men, regardless of anon or not. Especially if you were previously very successful. Markets like this one can be a harrowing experience.

[SussexSeagull]

We live in unusual times with WFH and the return to offices and I don't think the market will settle down for a few years.

[CheeseSlice]

The market is really quite good atm. I’m being a bit picky on rates, no discounts and still getting interviews. Plenty of low ballers still out there offering lockdown rates but they’ll figure it out soon.

[BR14]

The market will start to move once furlough ends because the people creating large amounts of sales leads were the lowest paid.

There is also an awfully large back-log of people on the bench still and people are too embarrsed to post about it.

This thread may not have many contributors but i bet its being read by an awful lot of people.

on an anonymous forum??

[rocktronAMP]

From the Forum home page.

There are currently 435 users online. 24 members and 411 guests.

Most users ever online was 22,243 at 05:13 on 14 September 2021.

The current user number is a fraction of what it has been in the past, particularly the number of members (ie. people who have actually registered and can post)

I suspect the "most users ever" is an anomaly though. Perhaps a DoS attack attempt.

Over the past three weeks, I have seen lots of job inquiries in my inbox : lots of Inside IR35 but several Outside IR35
(I went perm last March)

We are Global IT Recruitment specialist that provides support to the clients across UK and Europe. We
have an excellent job opportunity for you. If you are interested in the below role please revert me back with the updated copy of your CV and the best time to reach you to discuss more about the role.

Scala Developer
Location: Worthing (remote at present)
Initial Duration: 6 Months
Pay Rate £540.00/day outside IR35

I suspect this one today is HMRC

OXOXO associates are delighted to be partnered with a booming consultancy on their such for 5x Java Developers. These roles will be working with a prestigious end client.

Start: ASAP

Location: Remote

Duration: 6 months

Rate: £350-375 (Outside IR35)

This was yesterday

Fri, 17 Sept, 09:13 (5 days ago)

I hope you're well!

I'm currently looking for an AWS DevOps Engineer to join my client, a Scottish government agency, for a 6 month contract (extensions likely).

The role is offering up to £600 per day OUTSIDE IR35, and will be initially fully remote until the Scottish Government deems a return to office work acceptable, after which it will be a hybrid working system.

Skills Required

• Expert level Kubernetes infrastructure build and operate experience and able to demonstrate examples of this

On the other hand I have seen c**p rates too.

My client has an urgent requirement for a Javascript Developer to work on 6-month contract remotley (Possible Extensions) The daily rate on offer is up to £400 per day (Outside IR35).

Requirements

- Strong JavaScript skills 5+ Year
- Experience with Vue.js or Angular or React
- Experience with Node.js (Not essential)
- MUST BE BASED IN THE UK

keep on going, keep plugging away, the gigs are there and remember it is just a numbers game. Good luck!

[Paralytic]

The market will start to move once furlough ends because the people creating large amounts of sales leads were the lowest paid.

There is also an awfully large back-log of people on the bench still and people are too embarrsed to post about it.

This thread may not have many contributors but i bet its being read by an awful lot of people.

From the Forum home page.

There are currently 435 users online. 24 members and 411 guests.

Most users ever online was 22,243 at 05:13 on 14 September 2021.

The current user number is a fraction of what it has been in the past, particularly the number of members (ie. people who have actually registered and can post)

I suspect the "most users ever" is an anomaly though. Perhaps a DoS attack attempt.

[Bluenose]

Because these boards are pretty much dead - same dozen or so people posting, with the odd newcomer actually asking a question.

The market will start to move once furlough ends because the people creating large amounts of sales leads were the lowest paid.

There is also an awfully large back-log of people on the bench still and people are too embarrsed to post about it.

This thread may not have many contributors but i bet its being read by an awful lot of people.

[Paralytic]

concerned why this thread is so dead now

Because these boards are pretty much dead - same dozen or so people posting, with the odd newcomer actually asking a question.

[SimonMac]

What else is there to add? More people posting anecdotal evidence the market is booming/dead based on a snap shot of how many calls they got this week?

I forgot to charge my phone, so I am getting no calls and thus the market is dead

[northernladuk]

concerned why this thread is so dead now

What else is there to add? More people posting anecdotal evidence the market is booming/dead based on a snap shot of how many calls they got this week?

[SimonMac]

concerned why this thread is so dead now

[ladymuck]

concerned why this thread is so dead now

Because we're all too busy working?

[founder]

The East Coast Perm market diverged from the U.K about 2 years prior to the pandemic i.e. $285k base for Lead Consultants (25 Years exp.) out of D.C, not partner level. Corporate-to-Corporate day rates started to climb up to $2500-$3250 pd, therefore, with a good pipeline of work a consultant can bring in $500k-$750k per year of revenue, not to mention the value-add around change programmes.

Someone further up asked about contract PM roles in the City Of London, they have been steadily been moving these out of London for years, can't see that market getting any better tbh and it was in a poor state prior to the pandemic because of this.

id move to the states for that money