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Originally posted by tsmith View Post
Jobserve has always been mostly professional services FS, Insurance, Legal etc + public sector in my experience.
Dont know why just seems that way - London roles seem to be ever more finance than ever.
As someone based in the NW, I was kind of hoping that the high-value FS roles would diversify location-wise post-covid but generally speaking, I haven't seen a lot of evidence of that happening yet.
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Originally posted by sreed View PostI've never used Jobserve much but having periodically glanced at it (for FS PM roles) after hearing it come up on the forum, it definitely looks like there's been a noticeable uptick in FS PM roles compared to when I checked a few times last year. A lot of it is 2 days/week hybrid London and the money is decent.
Dont know why just seems that way - London roles seem to be ever more finance than ever- maybe everyone else cant afford the rents.
The number of fintechs I see - mostly sounding very similar is astounding.
Especially variations of 'payment processing' - seriously how many 'payment processing' companies are required in this world? Dont get it.
Assuming its because of the below - eg VC's just spraying and praying something will stick...
"Open banking led to a fintech boom"
https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/04/op...ayments-grows/
but then
"Open banking in the UK needs a revolution, says report
In the UK, open banking has seen only limited success"
https://www.thebanker.com/Open-banki...ort-1689318369
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Originally posted by willendure View Post
I have only ever worked as an outside IR35 contractor, my entire career starting in 2001. I did once or twice apply for permie roles, but always the question "I see you've only every been a contractor, are you just applying for a permie role because the market it dead just now?". The only permie roles I have been offered was when working as a contractor somewhere and they asked if I wanted to go perm, on about 1/2 of the money!
Looking at the state of the market, it was probably the right decision.
I work for a large German company and it isn't too bad at all.
Like the way they do things - quite organized - I can see why the Germans are good at manufacturing and war.
I think I managed to get the job as they use old technology and had an urgent requirement.
I said contracting is not so appealing now due to IR35, contracts are shorter and I was looking for more stability.
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I've never used Jobserve much but having periodically glanced at it (for FS PM roles) after hearing it come up on the forum, it definitely looks like there's been a noticeable uptick in FS PM roles compared to when I checked a few times last year. A lot of it is 2 days/week hybrid London and the money is decent.
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Originally posted by willendure View Post
I have only ever worked as an outside IR35 contractor, my entire career starting in 2001. I did once or twice apply for permie roles, but always the question "I see you've only every been a contractor, are you just applying for a permie role because the market it dead just now?". The only permie roles I have been offered was when working as a contractor somewhere and they asked if I wanted to go perm, on about 1/2 of the money!
We've also got a number of very experienced contractors in cushy perm roles after being asked to go perm by their client. They last two gigs I've worked in the client managers were ex-contractors lured in by a decent offer during hard times. Both are quite happy with the situation due to life changes. Some clients will take the mick with an awful rate but there are plenty of gigs where the contractor holds a lot of sway with the package and can get a very good deal they couldn't in the market.
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Originally posted by hungry_hog View PostNever understand how people are able to jump back in and out like sentry duty.
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Originally posted by oliverson View PostThis thread is taking a disturbing turn down the 'job' (perm) side!
qh
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I find when I go for perm interviews (and it doesn't happen often) I have no credibility as a 15 year contractor. Whereas contract interviews pretty much 1 in 2 chance I will get it.
And then if you do get back in you have a 3 months notice.
Never understand how people are able to jump back in and out like sentry duty.
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Originally posted by willendure View PostFinally got through to the recruitment consultant I have been chasing since friday. Took at least 6 phone calls to finally make contact with a human being. And did not answer any of my emails. Apparently he already has 300 CVs from TOGAF Certified Architects. He also told me I was rude, I probably came accross as being a little abrupt due to having to be so pushy to get a phone call through. So that didn't really go very well, already has his short list before hes even looked at my CV, which was a very strong match to the job. I guess everyone just slaps all the keywords in their CV including TOGAF, whether they have them or not.
What a tulip market.
I need a plan B. Open a coffee shop or something.
Most side hustles arent as easy as the Youtube course shillers pretend and will take significant grind to get to salary replacement levels is the problem
Now its looking increasingly like I will have to go deeper into the side hustle and abandon IT altogether though. Luckily I have skill outside of IT but it wont be straightforward and will probably mean being self employed forever with what Ive got planned
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Originally posted by dsc View PostLI jobs seems full with perm jobs in my industry, but pay is on 2015 levels and 95% are hybrid which is probably the most annoying tulipe ever.
I’ve had the other extreme as well where a hybrid role turned out to be a 4 days/week presence in Liverpool but the recruiter advertised it as hybrid as he wasn’t getting enough applications when the ad said on-site.
My current contract was advertised as hybrid far-off-northern-city but to all intents and purposes it’s a remote role with occasional visits to the office. I’ve only had to visit twice in 5 months.
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This thread is taking a disturbing turn down the 'job' (perm) side!
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Originally posted by dsc View PostYup, seen that as well, on a lot I see 3yrs+ which makes me thing if you have over 10yrs, it's a quick rejection.Last edited by Fraidycat; Yesterday, 17:41.
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