Reply to: EES delays

[NotAllThere]

Here's something funny.

It's soon going to start costing us in the region of £200m/year to travel to the EU.

Approximately 40million* brits travel to the EU every year.
ETIAS will cost 20euro (£17) per person and lasts 3** years.

40 million * £17 / 3 = £226m/year

Approximately 25 million tourists requiring an ETA travel to the UK every year.
ETAs cost £20 per person and last 2 years. Including children.

25 million * £20 / 2 = £250m per year.

[ladymuck]

Here's something funny.

It's soon going to start costing us in the region of £200m/year to travel to the EU.

Approximately 40million* brits travel to the EU every year.
ETIAS will cost 20euro (£17) per person and lasts 3** years.

40million * £17 / 3 = £226m/year

* This is probably an overestimate because under 18s don't have to pay.
** Actually, on average, it will last less than 3 years. It's only 3 years if you've got at least 3 years on your passport. Whenever you renew your passport, you'll have to renew ETIAS.

No worse than paying to go to many other countries with similar schemes. Yes, we could now be saving £17 each if we didn't have a spineless PM back in 2016.

[woody1]

Here's something funny.

It's soon going to start costing us in the region of £200m/year to travel to the EU.

Approximately 40million* brits travel to the EU every year.
ETIAS will cost 20euro (£17) per person and lasts 3** years.

40million * £17 / 3 = £226m/year

* This is probably an overestimate because under 18s don't have to pay.
** Actually, on average, it will last less than 3 years. It's only 3 years if you've got at least 3 years on your passport. Whenever you renew your passport, you'll have to renew ETIAS.

[Paddy]

Just re-joining the EU won't make any difference. The UK would have to join Schengen.

Wrong in so many ways,

[NotAllThere]

Just re-joining the EU won't make any difference. The UK would have to join Schengen.

Not so. If the UK had stayed in the EU and not joined the Schengen zone, then travellers would just use the EU/CH/EEA lane as they did before. Just like the Irish and Cypriots do now.

[Uncle Albert]

Just re-joining the EU won't make any difference. The UK would have to join Schengen.

[budgetastronaut]

I really wonder if this system is actually sustainable, and for how long we will have to put up with it? Or will we all be again part of the EU?

[woody1]

If they don't suspend it soon, and throughout the summer, it's going to be hellish especially next month.

[ladymuck]

What I don't understand is why airports don't segregate one or two flights for EES processing and just let the others arrive in the old/normal way. It's entirely possible to do that in most airports with a bit of extra staffing and use of tensa barriers. Then gradually increase the number of third country arrivals put through the EES channel. Trying to do every arrival all at once is just bonkers.

It might be a bit harder to do this with flights leaving Schengen as passengers are idiots and it doesn't matter how many signs you put up, a fair proportion of people will think it doesn't apply to them.

[woody1]

https://www.eureporter.co/politics/s...xit-system-ees

[woody1]

I was traveling back from Gran Canaria at the start of January (peak season for them) and their was no issue. I think the issues are partially down to luck and how many people hit the gates at the same time.

Getting out isn't a problem. The delays are getting in. But you're right, it's dependent on how many flights arrive at the same time.

Apparently, Jet2 try to time their departures from UK airports to arrive at the same time so it reduces the number of bus trips to the hotels. We witnessed this in Lanzarote on a Sunday afternoon in November when there were loads of them on the arrivals board from all over the UK. Thankfully the EES machines weren't on at the time but nevertheless it still took nearly an hour to get through immigration.

[NotAllThere]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0k699pxwzo

Going to a Schengen country next week, I will sail through the EU gates, my wife however who thought it was a good idea to get Britisch citizenship will have to queue. I will wait in the arrivals bar

I'm just glad I've a Schengen and a British passport. Mind you, an five ETAs is still cheaper than a British passport.

[pjt]

I was traveling back from Gran Canaria at the start of January (peak season for them) and their was no issue. I think the issues are partially down to luck and how many people hit the gates at the same time.

[Eirikur]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0k699pxwzo

Going to a Schengen country next week, I will sail through the EU gates, my wife however who thought it was a good idea to get Britisch citizenship will have to queue. I will wait in the arrivals bar

[WTFH]

Although if I was travelling over the summer, I think I'd avoid the Schengen area altogether just in case.

Could you apply for an Australian passport?