Ukraine Unrest

[suityou01]

Where are the water canons? I've seen far more effective crowd control in other countries. This is almost being "allowed" to descend into this.

[doodab]

Really? I thought the videos of London rioters with guns shooting at police helicopters showed that some of them did.

They also weren't descending on parliament trying to topple the government. I suspect if you had a few thousand people turn up and start lobbing rocks, petrol bombs and bullets at the palace of Westminster you'd see a different response.

[doodab]

Where are the water canons? I've seen far more effective crowd control in other countries. This is almost being "allowed" to descend into this.

It certainly seems to be badly managed.

[mos]

Where are the water canons? I've seen far more effective crowd control in other countries. This is almost being "allowed" to descend into this.

Not only 'allowed' but provoked by implanted mercenaries - provocateurs.

[doodab]

I am not convinced. The Media in Eastern Europe are owned by foreign interest. I know how incredibly biased they are because events in my own country are being shown in completely untrue light by local (global) TV stations - and are strongly biased towards war and unrest mongering. You should not believe what you see in media. Our region suffered enough, they should just let us be. Go to India and China and leave us alone (to warlords).

No doubt some of the media are biased but it doesn't change the fact that you have very violent protest going on there. Policemen are getting shot, that appears to be a fact reported by reputable news outlets such as the BBC as well as less reputable ones. Are we supposed to believe they are all lying because of some global conspiracy and both sides want the situation to descend into chaos? Doesn't seem a very likely explanation does it.

Противоправные действия "мирных" протестующих 18 февраля 2014 года - YouTube

[mos]

It certainly seems to be badly managed.

I would say it is 'well managed' by those who incited this situation for their own nefarious agenda.

[doodab]

I would say it is 'well managed' by those who incited this situation for their own nefarious agenda.

I simply don't buy into the conspiracy crap TBH. No doubt foreign governments have been sticking their oar in but the idea that the whole thing has been orchestrated by nefarious foreign "warmongers" just doesn't ring true. You have a divided country, there have been protesters on the streets for months and the main incitement seems to be the recent actions of the president and subsequent violent attacks by the protesters attacking government buildings. I really don't think they needed any help to escalate it at all and the idea that it all would have passed of peacefully if the rest of the world wasn't watching is somewhat delusional IMO.

[MicrosoftBob]

If wonder if the French authorities are getting ideas - they're always having riots.

It's a bit easier to burn sheep when the police turn a blind eye, than stand upto your government whilst getting shot at by snipers and armed thugs

[mos]

No doubt some of the media are biased but it doesn't change the fact that you have very violent protest going on there. Policemen are getting shot, that appears to be a fact reported by reputable news outlets such as the BBC as well as less reputable ones. Are we supposed to believe they are all lying because of some global conspiracy and both sides want the situation to descend into chaos? Doesn't seem a very likely explanation does it.

Противоправные действия "мирных" протестующих 18 февраля 2014 года - YouTube

Fake till you make it. War mongering mercenaries go home! I do not consider BBC that 'reputable' and they likely repeat material they are given.

And you seem to be forgetting what happened during London riots. Were people burning premises and flats 'normal' English folks and representative to your general population? I hope not.

[AtW]

It's been violent for a while. It's not at all clear that it was the police using firearms that escalated the situation.

That's real guns in hands of police - sniper rifles that should never be deployed against crowds.

The only thing people there have is courage and numbers on their side - and also that they are right, that takes real balls that not many people have.