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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
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    I bet some of his best friends are Ukrainian.
    If UKIP are the answer, then it must have been a very stupid question.

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      Originally posted by mos View Post
      I bet some of his best friends are Ukrainian.
      Mine aren't. I do not know anyone from the Ukraine.
      That does not stop me hoping that people over there stop killing each soon.
      "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

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        Originally posted by mos View Post
        I bet some of his best friends are Ukrainian.
        Regardless of who I do or don't know I don't see why you should assume I don't care just because I happen not to agree with everything you say.

        You clearly think being eastern European gives you some sort of privilege to express an opinion, especially when it's based on recycling the usual old conspiracy theory crap and blaming everyone else for what has been a long running situation. Ukraine is quite obviously a divided country and these tensions have been there and growing since the breakup of the USSR, in fact I think if you look at the history of being torn between east and west it goes back quite a bit longer. The situation is clearly far more complex than the simple protesters right, government wrong and everything being stirred up by external agents you seem to think, the fact you have ruling party MPs voting against the president, the head of the armed forces resigning and various provinces declaring the government illegitimate while the crimeans make noises about going it alone ought to tell you that the divisions run a bit deeper than that.

        The president may not be fully legitimate and you may not like what he's doing with regard to closer ties to Russia or turning his back on constitutional reform (which served as the trigger for the recent escalation) but the reality seems to be that a sizable minority of the population would prefer closer ties to Russia over the EU. The anti government protesters aren't the only voices that need to be listened to and if they get everything they want there is every chance of a reaction elsewhere.

        One positive sign is that a fair number of high ranking officials have stood up and done what they think is the right thing to do which shows that civil society and moral decency is still alive and the situation is not lost. So lets hope the sensible heads prevail and both the government and the more extreme opposition are willing to compromise and move things forwards before it gets any worse. I still think there are going to be sticking points because the divisions obviously run deep and perhaps a separation into two states that can go their own way is the best solution.
        Last edited by doodab; 21 February 2014, 13:48.
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