Advice Needed - Student Son's housemate threatening violence !

[MaryPoppins]

But Plan A (or rather Hope A) is to get the troublesome one out.

Good luck to your boy - keep us updated?

[CoolCat]

Worth going to speak to the Uni accomodation people face to face, take the students union representative with you if you can. The Uni accomodation dept are used to dealing with this kind of thing, and have several tricks up their sleeves which can be used to leverage such situations. Even when the accomodation is not run by the Uni the accomodation dept can still use their various tricks to resolve such situations.

[NotAllThere]

none of the flat mates need to know who gives him a kicking.

Now the police are involved, if he gets a kicking the finger of suspicion will definitely be pointing at the flat mates. Too much risk, in my view, of getting a criminal record.

No. A campaign of sustained non-criminal harassment should do the trick. Any threats of violence from the perp to be firmly resisted.

Or - and this is just a wild suggestion I know - the two should get the one in a room and attempt to resolve the issue through discussion. What is the antagonist hoping to achieve. Is he trying to get them out? Or is he just miffed that he's had to do the washing up one time? What is the root cause behind the dispute?

And it's worth repeating:

Never accept a caution, it's an admission of guilt and can affect things like security clearance later on.

Better to fight it in the courts, at least you have better than the 0% chance of being innocent with a caution

[vetran]

none of the flat mates need to know who gives him a kicking.

Jesus H, I fear for the future of this country if a couple of noodle armed choir boys can't sort their first adult spat out.

There are times to be tough, and this is not one of them. A police record will mean the son cannot get any sort of high level clearance. The mum has already played the game better than them, I suspect she knows how to better than them.

[Old Hack]

There are times to be tough, and this is not one of them. A police record will mean the son cannot get any sort of high level clearance. The mum has already played the game better than them, I suspect she knows how to better than them.

That's not true for a start.

They need to man up and face the problem head on.

[vetran]

You sure?

Just one sector, but almost anything dealing with public security will be the same.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...land-and-wales

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...gulated-by-dft


possibly as a spook or finance geek then an affray, ABH or conspiracy to wound conviction would not count against you too much. But you wouldn't get anywhere near children or the public neither would your partner.

[Platypus]

none of the flat mates need to know who gives him a kicking.

Jesus H, I fear for the future of this country if a couple of noodle armed choir boys can't sort their first adult spat out.

Just for the record, my son is not a noodle armed choir boy. I have no doubt he'd knock the sh*t out of you in a second, Mr. Billy Big Balls. But he's trying to apply some common sense here and not resort to stupidity wherein he's more likely to end up in trouble. So please, no more suggestions that extreme violence is the solution in this case.

@MyUserName, thanks, good post.

[d000hg]

If you can't sort an "adult spat" out without resorting to physical violence, you really haven't learned anything. Is this your solution to any conflict? What about a boss who picks on you... beat them up behind the bike sheds?

The whole point of growing up and going to university is to learn how to sort these things out without resorting to your fists... that's how children do things.

[amcdonald]

You sure?

Just one sector, but almost anything dealing with public security will be the same.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...land-and-wales

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...gulated-by-dft


possibly as a spook or finance geek then an affray, ABH or conspiracy to wound conviction would not count against you too much. But you wouldn't get anywhere near children or the public neither would your partner.

I know of a contractor who after getting verbal with an elderly neighbour who got workmen in to cut down the trees in the garden had plod come round and wanted to give them a caution for breach of the peace

They refused as their clearance would be borked, but then they needed high level clearance for where they worked

It can matter, and they were doing an ordinary job they were not a spook or anything like that

[Platypus]

A police record will mean the son cannot get any sort of high level clearance.

It might also lose you the opportunity to visit the US, on the Visa Waiver scheme at least.