Osborne Speech on Scotland Independance

[Goatfell]

FTFY

Always nice to see all the people wearing kilts at weddings despite living and working in the UK all their lives, if they love it so much go home.

Are these kilt wearers not from the UK? Are they French or Chinese perhaps

[vetran]

Are these kilt wearers not from the UK? Are they French or Chinese perhaps

well spotted


Happy to see the scots independent, no intention subsidise them though.

[d000hg]

For 30 years or so and then the oil runs out! I think it was Darling who was saying that its not wise to base your whole economy on a finite resource. Scotland will become a very big Aberdeen in the same way that Aberdeen will be fecked once the black stuff stops flowing.

We're ALL screwed when the oil runs out.

[hyperD]

We're ALL screwed when the oil runs out.

Nah, they're fecked.

[Mich the Tester]

Scotland has most the industry, but the oil isn't in Scotland. It's in the North Sea, and the UK has exclusive rights to it. If Scotland seeks to leave the UK, then why are they all assuming North Sea Oil is theirs?

I wonder if anyone would even be talking about all this if it weren't for North Sea Oil.

This becomes even more interesting when Orkney and Shetland decide to opt out of all this and stay in the Union; they aren't well known for Scottish nationalism. They're a bunch of tories AFAIK, and they could lay claim to a lot of the oil.

[vetran]

This becomes even more interesting when Orkney and Shetland decide to opt out of all this and stay in the Union; they aren't well known for Scottish nationalism. They're a bunch of tories AFAIK, and they could lay claim to a lot of the oil.

ouch, not thought about that. would we need to send our one air craft carrier round to sort out their new motor boat HPS - the Alex Salmond


would make the whole thing a bit interesting.

[proggy]

This becomes even more interesting when Orkney and Shetland decide to opt out of all this and stay in the Union; they aren't well known for Scottish nationalism. They're a bunch of tories AFAIK, and they could lay claim to a lot of the oil.

Orkney and Shetland are in Scotland so if Scotland is independent then Orkney and Shetland have no say other than the vote. Like saying I could opt out of paying my tax as I don't want to be part of the UK

Scotland owns most of the Oil fields in the North Sea and around its shores, hence the reason the tories are trying every FUD tactic in the book to get people to vote against it.

[Mich the Tester]

Orkney and Shetland are in Scotland so if Scotland is independent then Orkney and Shetland have no say other than the vote. Like saying I could opt out of paying my tax as I don't want to be part of the UK

Hmm, I can see that democracy will be in safe hands in the new Scotland

Within the UK Scotland can vote to become independent. Northern Ireland can vote to leave the UK and become a part of the Republic, or even go independent. That's democracy; you want out, you're allowed out. What, precisely, makes Orkney different? What makes their democratically expressed wishes less valuable than those of people on the mainland?

Remember, it's you, Mr Salmond and your nationalist chums who are initiating the break up of a sovereign state, and not some large group of people in England or in Orkney; if you have the right to do that, and you do, then so do others.

[BoredBloke]

Scotland has most the industry, but the oil isn't in Scotland. It's in the North Sea, and the UK has exclusive rights to it. If Scotland seeks to leave the UK, then why are they all assuming North Sea Oil is theirs?

I wonder if anyone would even be talking about all this if it weren't for North Sea Oil.

The bulk of the oil is in what would become scottish waters - about 95%

[vetran]

Orkney and Shetland are in Scotland so if Scotland is independent then Orkney and Shetland have no say other than the vote.

As Mitch points out who says they are? The independence vote is a game changer.

The Malvinas are UK territory. They have voted to not be part of Argentina. Jersey & Isle of man are independent.

The UK Islanders could quite reasonably argue they don't want to be part of a separate Scotland. They are entitled.

Just as the English should be able to vote on Scottish Independence. After all we will be affected and probably told to fund it.

or do we only need to listen to the opinions of Salmond & co?