Ukip takes second place in Rotherham

[Lockhouse]

There's the danger of only talking to people like yourself - historically that kind of blinkered view has led to some pretty damaging events.

That's quite witty - for you.

[d000hg]

And of course while "everyone" may be considering voting UKIP, most of them won't.

[ZARDOZ]

What does everyone expect? The Tories lost 3 elections by behaving like Tories.

The only way they could win an election on traditional Tory policies would have been to lose the last one and let Labour's policies run their course, which was headlong into disaster. It could have ended up worse than the Winter Of Discontent and the IMF.

However, as people saw it in 2010, unlike 1979, no big economic disasters had happened under Labour because the problems were all hidden and kicked down the road. That meant that the Tories found it difficult to implement Tory policies to get to grips with a dire situation, because the masses couldn't see a dire situation. When they do, they will blame the Tories for it.

So it's a very fine line that the Tories have to walk. Too much self-indulgence with traditional policies, and in 2015 we will be welcoming Ed Milliband and Ed Balls back into Downing Street.

Are there really people that think in such binary terms as above? I.e. Tories= good Labour=Bad. The truth is they both **** up, the two party system in this country doesn't work and whoever is in charge it makes little difference. The country is run by the same civil servants.

As for Traditional Tory Policies to get to grips with the situation?
1/ Monetarism, that failed didn't it.
2/ Deregulation, erm that caused the crisis.
3/ Balancing the books? They just INCREASED borrowing!

However this is all some cunning ploy. FFS

[darmstadt]

I actually think that if someone came along who was a mixture of Enoch Powell, Arthur Scargill, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill then they would be the next British PM

[Mich the Tester]

Are there really people that think in such binary terms as above?

Yes. Don't make things so complicated for them.

[NickFitz]

The BNP candidate, Marlene Guest, was annoyed: "I'm so angry. UKIP are like us, but they just lie about it."

Still, as long as the Tory vote is split at least some good is coming from the scum

[Robinho]

Are there really people that think in such binary terms as above? I.e. Tories= good Labour=Bad. The truth is they both **** up, the two party system in this country doesn't work and whoever is in charge it makes little difference. The country is run by the same civil servants.

As for Traditional Tory Policies to get to grips with the situation?
1/ Monetarism, that failed didn't it.
2/ Deregulation, erm that caused the crisis.
3/ Balancing the books? They just INCREASED borrowing!

However this is all some cunning ploy. FFS

No!