what happened to free speech

[KaiserWilly]

So are muslim complaints; it's just a shame that a few crackpots take it further.

Rubbish. Blasphemy is officially a crime in almost ALL Muslims countries.

I have no evidence to support that Muslims in the West abhor the stifling of free speech and free discussion in their countries.

[Mich the Tester]

Pretty much it. Proletarians don't listen to Marxists anymore, so they found a new client-audience: Muslims.

No, the Respect Party is nothing more than a bunch of confused idiots and therefore not worth worrying about.

[Taita]

They've cancelled (or maybe just postponed) a private screening to an invited audience. The programme itself has already been broadcast, is going to be broadcast again later this week, and is available to watch on the online 4OD service.

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EXACTLY..... lots of FREE publicity.... clever marketing by Channel 4!

[Mich the Tester]

Rubbish. Blasphemy is officially a crime in almost ALL Muslims countries.

I have no evidence to support that Muslims in the West abhor the stifling of free speech and free discussion in their countries.

Do you read Dutch? You probably don't, but if you did, you'd be surprised by what this Muslim Dutchman is saying;
http://tofikdibi.nl/

Yep, he's moderately left winged, but he also campaigns for free speech in NL and the rest of the world, equality for gay people and for women, etc etc and tried to get the Dutch government to assist secular groups in the Arab uprisings. In between visiting his local mosque to campaign among muslims for voting for a secular party.

[d000hg]

Rubbish. Blasphemy is officially a crime in almost ALL Muslims countries.

If that's true how do Islamic countries allow Christian churches at all?

[Mich the Tester]

If that's true how do Islamic countries allow Christian churches at all?

Because most of them do, but some people like to talk a lot of tulip about Islamic countries.

[Gibbon]

Just a word about toleration.

In 312 CE Constantine proclaimed toleration for ALL religions.

By 412 CE Orthodox or Nicene Christianity had had all other religions, including all the other myraid forms of Christianity, banned.

History doesn't repeat, but there are rythmns.

[d000hg]

Well in the Old Testament they went around banning other religions pretty enthusiastically too.

[KaiserWilly]

Do you read Dutch? You probably don't, but if you did, you'd be surprised by what this Muslim Dutchman is saying;
http://tofikdibi.nl/

Yep, he's moderately left winged, but he also campaigns for free speech in NL and the rest of the world, equality for gay people and for women, etc etc and tried to get the Dutch government to assist secular groups in the Arab uprisings. In between visiting his local mosque to campaign among muslims for voting for a secular party.

Inderdaad, Ik lees het Nederlands.

This is the exception that confirms the rule.

He wouldn't last 5 minutes if he preached that in any Muslim country.

[KaiserWilly]

If that's true how do Islamic countries allow Christian churches at all?

You don't understand anything, you moron.

First of all, not all Muslim countries allow Christian worship. Not Saudi Arabia (our lovely ally). Even bringing a Bible is verboten. There is a religious police, the Mutawah. You cant set foot in Mecca and Medina if you are an infidel, etc.

Secondly, blasphemy here is understood not as practicing other religion but opposing any Islamic doctrine. If you think that Prophet Mo didn't fly from Mecca to Jerusalem on the back of an angel and you express that view publicly, you are in trouble. Islam doesn't tolerate any high criticism.