Freak Weather due to Ice Caps melting

[EternalOptimist]

And by implication you aren't? This issue is sufficiently complex that everyone can be wrong.

Everyone is wrong, there is no doubt about that, but

meanwhile the desalination plants in Australia stand idle, the hosepipe ban in England has been lifted and Tuvalu remains stubborly above water

[Mich the Tester]

Everyone is wrong, there is no doubt about that, but

meanwhile the desalination plants in Australia stand idle, the hosepipe ban in England has been lifted and Tuvalu remains stubborly above water

some of the time

[BlasterBates]

Another prediction that was wrong

[sasguru]

One wonders if reports from Insurance companies are scientific.

Here is an example of a bad prediction

NoTricksZone: Not here to worship what is known, but to question it. Climate news from Germany in English – by P Gosselin

In Germany the climate got progessively drier over the 1990´s, and now the climate is getting progressively wetter. What springs to mind? Cycles.

In June there was 15% more rain than average, which kind of strikes me as being very normal really, not exactly an extreme is it. In spite of the abve average rainfall there hasn´t been any excessive flooding on the Rhein or Main for about a decade. One could argue this is a weather extreme, that the rainfall is´unusually evenly distributed to provide perfect conditions for the agriculture and natural habitats, which could of course be attributed to "climate disruption".

Of course we´re all aware of the predictions for more and worse hurricanes, and what happened in the meantime:

No Major U.S. Hurricane Hits This Season Would Set Record at Sixth Year - Bloomberg

Presumably this can be touted as a "weather extreme".

The climate models are useless. Not only do they predict warming, when there has been none for 13 years, a hotspot in the troposhere that cannot be found, accelerating rises in sea levels when they have stabilised and may even be falling.
I dont really care that they get it wrong, thats the way humans operate and its the way science operates as well. What is wrong here is that policy is being based on a half baked discredited theory, and the fanatics that support the theory are using every dirty trick in the book to make sure those policies are implemented.
I guess it wont be untill the general public see something tangible like massive hikes in energy costs, or power cuts that they will start to take notice

meanwhile the desalination plants in Australia stand idle, the hosepipe ban in England has been lifted and Tuvalu remains stubborly above water

Bilge.
HTH.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I thought it would be interesting to mention the famous story of Joseph (Son of Jacob) and the dream of the 7 lean cows devouring the 7 fat cows (cycles of wet and dry weather in 7 years). This story is mentioned in the Torah, Bible and the Quran. Who says religion isn't relevant to today eh? Also I imagine there is an economic lesson on there i.e. save during the good years to help you through the bad ones.

[BlasterBates]

Indeed and the weather features prominently in the bible, as a way by which God punishes the sins of man via freak weather. Have things changed, have we moved on from Witch Doctors or priests trying to control society via the threat of bad weather.

[EternalOptimist]

Indeed and the weather features prominently in the bible, as a way by which God punishes the sins of man via freak weather. Have things changed, have we moved on from Witch Doctors or priests trying to control society via the threat of bad weather.

The best way to control a flock of sheep is to frighten them. Shepherds use dogs, Priests use fire and brimstone, Eco zealots use tales of planetary disaster.
There is nothing wrong with questioning this, you have to ask yourself why they hate it so

[BrilloPad]

Indeed and the weather features prominently in the bible, as a way by which God punishes the sins of man via freak weather. Have things changed, have we moved on from Witch Doctors or priests trying to control society via the threat of bad weather.

+1 . Scientists are the new priests. The level at which they work now is not data related and is more philosophical.

[BlasterBates]

We´re told that the raging fires in the US last week are due to a freak weather event, caused by climate disruption. Lets have a look at the statistics:

National Interagency Fire Center


Year to date acreage burnt by fires = 3,072,536
Year to date acreage burnt by fires, 10 year average = 2,957,748


Oh and here is what they were saying at the Met office in May:

2012 will be a barbecue summer because our climate models say so

[sasguru]

+1 . Scientists are the new priests. The level at which they work now is not data related and is more philosophical.

Bilge.
HTH