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Why women should leave men who are violent the first time

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    #51
    Originally posted by wim121 View Post

    Are you seriously trying to say that women arent argumentative, violent or wilful in relationships and they all act like lapdogs? Everyone knows you're spewing tulip out of your mouth.
    Are you seriously trying to say that if women don't act like lapdogs, they somehow deserve whatever violence is levelled at them?

    I said most women aren't drunken slappers, or violent towards their partners, in the same way that most men aren't violent towards their partners either. Your suggestion that the only rationale for a man being violent towards his partner is that she instigated the violence is hugely offensive to any woman who has been a victim of domestic abuse. Where is your evidence that "In the majority of DV cases, it is the woman that initiates the violence" and I'm not asking you for your usual anecdotal evidence, but a proper, respected source.

    None of this is suggesting that domestic violence against men doesn't exist, and is probably a lot more common than is reported, but that is a separate issue to the one being discussed here, in which you seek to suggest there may be some excuse for what this man did.

    I realise that I've been 'sucked in' again. I will take a break from this forum, because, to be honest, I cannot avoid getting upset by your posts. Troll or for real, I think you are a nasty bit of work.

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      #52
      Originally posted by k2p2 View Post
      Are you seriously trying to say that if women don't act like lapdogs, they somehow deserve whatever violence is levelled at them?

      I said most women aren't drunken slappers, or violent towards their partners, in the same way that most men aren't violent towards their partners either. Your suggestion that the only rationale for a man being violent towards his partner is that she instigated the violence is hugely offensive to any woman who has been a victim of domestic abuse. Where is your evidence that "In the majority of DV cases, it is the woman that initiates the violence" and I'm not asking you for your usual anecdotal evidence, but a proper, respected source.

      None of this is suggesting that domestic violence against men doesn't exist, and is probably a lot more common than is reported, but that is a separate issue to the one being discussed here, in which you seek to suggest there may be some excuse for what this man did.

      I realise that I've been 'sucked in' again. I will take a break from this forum, because, to be honest, I cannot avoid getting upset by your posts. Troll or for real, I think you are a nasty bit of work.
      Written could set up a sub forum and only invite the nice people.

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        #53
        Originally posted by k2p2 View Post
        I realise that I've been 'sucked in' again. I will take a break from this forum, because, to be honest, I cannot avoid getting upset by your posts. Troll or for real, I think you are a nasty bit of work.
        I think you should abuse him first with rep. He likes that.
        What happens in General, stays in General.
        You know what they say about assumptions!

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          #54
          You've pushed your opinions too far now wim.

          Goodbye.
          "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
          - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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            #55
            I don't think violence sorts out any issues.

            Why can't people just be nice to each other?

            I think I'm better off on an island somewhere.




            Tone

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              #56
              Originally posted by cojak View Post
              You've pushed your opinions too far now wim.

              Goodbye.
              Not the face. NOT THE FACE!!!
              What happens in General, stays in General.
              You know what they say about assumptions!

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                #57
                We'll leave the face alone, since as anything we could do would only make it look better.
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Sands of Time View Post
                  I don't think violence sorts out any issues.

                  Why can't people just be nice to each other?

                  I think I'm better off on an island somewhere.




                  Tone
                  Like Great Britain?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by cojak View Post
                    You've pushed your opinions too far now wim.

                    Goodbye.
                    Having read his posts he did not advocate violence against women he actually afforded them the respect that they should not feel or behave as if they are victims.
                    His point was that that women are highly manipulative game players which compensates for their lack of physical power - before you go off on one NOTHING except self defence justifies violence against women - or men even . I will add whilst I am it that The notion of equality is meaningless nonsense. It is also lazy in how it crudely sums up an ideal of what we in society should be aiming for.
                    Wims point was never to approve of violence it was to say that women are not always (in the case of the Rochdale incident where they were victims) the innocents that people make them out to be.
                    His mistake was probably in making his points on a post that was about violence against women- because you women have hysterically put two and two together and made five.
                    Shame on you
                    Last edited by DodgyAgent; 13 May 2012, 10:39.
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                      Like Great Britain?
                      My immediate thought.

                      Though I think there are a few islands of the Scottish coast which have no population as they were abandoned at the beginning of the 20th Century.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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