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    #61
    Originally posted by Andy2 View Post
    Also you will have to deal with polluted air and water, diseases,huge traffic jams ,local bureucracy etc..
    So no change from coming to London for work, then?
    Step outside posh boy

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      #62
      Originally posted by lje View Post
      IT is currently in a really bad way in the US. Lots of people without work. They're coping with the recession and the competition from abroad too.

      If you want to stick with IT then I'd suggest looking at jobs in China. A booming economy and lots of work. Pay is lower but so is the cost of living. I guess the same could be said for India but I don't know the market out there very well.
      Choosing the place to work is much less important than choosing the time. You people have chosen ... poorly.
      Step outside posh boy

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        #63
        Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View Post
        Interesting how this thread has got so many posts in such a short time seems like im not the only one sick of IT
        f***ing moron.

        Begone foul pest <waves magic chickens foot normally used on bluescreening servers>
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          #64
          Low Salaries - Yeah, I'm sick of my low salary too.. Although the divvies go some way to make up for it though.

          No appreciation - The only appreciation I'm after is the little scribble from the PM at the bottom of my timesheets.

          Lots of Competition - Just as well I'm very good at what I do then.

          Indians pricing us out of the Market - Not all of us, I probably charge 5 or 6x more than you could get someone offshore to do it but still manage to find work.

          No Jobs - There are contracts out there, admittedly not many, but there are some and hopefully more in the new year

          No Money - Yeah I know the feeling, I'm a bit skint right now. Perhaps I shouldn't have bought that Nissan GTR and got a 2nd hand Focus instead.

          Need to get out asap - Good! less competition for the contracts that are out there. Mind you, with your attitude I don't think you'd be much competition anyway.

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            #65
            Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
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            As you can see I do step outside the realms of a normal BA, but only slightly and I do keep things moving, and take the personalitys out of the mix and act as a buffer between all parties.

            I have done hybrid BA/BPM development work in the past so to go full time BA was not too much of a stretch, but it was a stretch and a comfortable enough transition.
            I think that anybody who survived the recession came out with a much wider range of skills. No money for hiring so people have to do development, system administration, training, research, business analysis, architecture, project management, etc.

            Now this skillset has become the norm and people get bad reviews for something that they were not hired for...

            Personally I don't believe that it's IT technical people causing projects to fail but it certainly is the friction that is between people with different skillset.

            A good manager (people skills, this unknown) should be able to create an environment in which people respect and trust each other and not a stupid army-like competition workplace.

            The critics of people who passed the fence from technical role to BA/PMs role are just as wrong as technical people showing off their skill to humiliate no-techy. You contribute as much as them to a hostile work environment and you are a burden to productivity.

            One last thing: ok, all of us managed to learn a lot of skills. However I can't believe that this super-human worker who knows business, architecture, development, project management, 25 languages and knows how to clean the desk is a natural evolution of IT. I just think that is a dysfunctional character created by the necessity of unjustified belt tightening. Perhaps it was necessary but I think that to be efficient people should do their own role (BAs are BAs, architects are architects, developers are developers, etc.). Of course, the fact that you have learned another skill is certainly useful (I for example had a 2-year experiences in sales, all good - but at the end I do another role so the importance of it is marginal) but at the end you only have one role to specialise and where you can add a genuine business value.
            I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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