Darling to shelve NHS IT system

[AtW]

Thats the problem, 50m for hardware etc - are you mad?? 10m max

One rack of 4U servers with 24 disk slots (let's say RAID 6 with 4 disks that can fail), 20 x 2 TB disks per server, or 400 TB per rack - one off purchase cost: around £70k.

15 racks in one DC should provide 6 petabytes of redundant storage, cost: £1 mln.

Storage available per patient (based on 60 mln UK patients - not everyone registered on NHS): 100 MB per patient. How many of them will have images stored like Xrays? Let's say 1 out of 10, so real storage will probably be 1 GB per patient on average.

So much stuff for just £1 mln.

[minestrone]

12 billion is a joke, I do agree with Popov on that, 10 million cost estimate is also a farce.

I'll do the job for 100 million.

[Mr.Whippy]

Thats the problem, 50m for hardware etc - are you mad??
10m max

Multiple datacentres with N+1 cooling/power etc, bandwidth between datacentres for business continuity with SRDF/CA, high end enterprise class servers, SAN storage with masses of capacity, networking infrastructue, firewalls, IDS, etc etc.....

It doesn't come cheap.

[minestrone]

Multiple datacentres with N+1 cooling/power etc, bandwidth between datacentres for business continuity with SRDF/CA, high end enterprise class servers, SAN storage with masses of capacity, networking infrastructue, firewalls, IDS, etc etc.....

It doesn't come cheap.

It's not 50 million though and you know that.

[pzz76077]

Multiple datacentres with N+1 cooling/power etc, bandwidth between datacentres for business continuity with SRDF/CA, high end enterprise class servers, SAN storage with masses of capacity, networking infrastructue, firewalls, IDS, etc etc.....

It doesn't come cheap.

So you are all part of the problem= no NHS system should cost this much. Isnt it in the social interest to keep these cost down/free??

PZZ

[AtW]

Multiple datacentres with N+1 cooling/power etc, bandwidth between datacentres for business continuity with SRDF/CA, high end enterprise class servers, SAN storage with masses of capacity, networking infrastructue, firewalls, IDS, etc etc.....

It doesn't come cheap.

It's cheap - especially if you buy in a bulk (many racks, Gigabits of bandwidth), especially if DC is close to London (or Manchester) - situation in Birmingham is rather pants, though it is getting better.

The only reason you'd need so many servers is because of presumed high capacity image storage requirement Xrays etc, everything else should be well compressible text data assigned to patient ID.

[pzz76077]

One rack of 4U servers with 24 disk slots (let's say RAID 6 with 4 disks that can fail), 20 x 2 TB disks per server, or 400 TB per rack - one off purchase cost: around £70k.

15 racks in one DC should provide 6 petabytes of redundant storage, cost: £1 mln.

Storage available per patient (based on 60 mln UK patients - not everyone registered on NHS): 100 MB per patient. How many of them will have images stored like Xrays? Let's say 1 out of 10, so real storage will probably be 1 GB per patient on average.

So much stuff for just £1 mln.

you have got to be kidding me????

No one but an idiot would pay these prices in this day and age...........

PZZ

[AtW]

you have got to be kidding me????

No one but an idiot would pay these prices in this day and age...........

PZZ

You got cheaper quote?

I based my calculations on what we pay for supermicro 4U servers and hard disks...

Buying in a bulk will probably get you 10-15% discount, they are already low margin business.

[AtW]

12 billion is a joke, I do agree with Popov on that, 10 million cost estimate is also a farce.

I'll do the job for 100 million.

Let's say it can be done for £1 bln, or 10 times less - this is still much better improvement!!!

[pzz76077]

You got cheaper quote?

I based my calculations on what we pay for supermicro 4U servers and hard disks...

Buying in a bulk will probably get you 10-15% discount, they are already low margin business.

My point is that no one pays for hardware/software these days. Service is all that counts.

PZZ