Darling to shelve NHS IT system

[pzz76077]

And this is where alot of the ignorance with regards to NPfIT comes.

They only see the delays/problems (usually with Millenium/Lorenzo) but never the good parts of the programme that are in, working and delivering benefits already......when was the last time you saw PACS in the news? never...you dont, because it's up and running nationally and is doing what it was intended to. Yet 99.9% of people won't have even heard of it.

I did 2 years on NPfIT, I left a few years ago so I'm a little out of touch with it all but it seems like it's all start to come together (albeit slowly and expensively) so it's a real shame if it's canned now.

No ,I only see the costs and think 'hey thats not realistic' Value for money - no way.


PZZ

[stek]

And this is where alot of the ignorance with regards to NPfIT comes.

They only see the delays/problems (usually with Millenium/Lorenzo) but never the good parts of the programme that are in, working and delivering benefits already......when was the last time you saw PACS in the news? never...you dont, because it's up and running nationally and is doing what it was intended to. Yet 99.9% of people won't have even heard of it.

I did 2 years on NPfIT, I left a few years ago so I'm a little out of touch with it all but it seems like it's all start to come together (albeit slowly and expensively) so it's a real shame if it's canned now.

Completely agree.

[pzz76077]

The costs of the NHS IT system are perverse however you look at them.
I would say 50m tops including Accidentures 'fees'.

PZZ

[AtW]

The costs of the NHS IT system are perverse however you look at them.

They look perverse unless one gets paid them in the process.

Those who got paid those ridiculous amounts via gravy train NHS contracts are likely to defend it, some of those who did not get to it, but would have liked to (having no moral qualms about taxpayer money waste) would also do so.

[minestrone]

One of many issues facing the programme yes.. Healthcare professionals seem particularly resistant to any change for some reason.

They do not see it giving any real benefits, the pratice of medicine does not need a computer or a database, they have a system and it works for them.

Who am I, You or the goverment to tell doctors how to work when none of us have ever worked on the NHS front line.

The health care professional did not want goverment interference on this, it was completely forced on them. See my post on the first page.

[Mr.Whippy]

The costs of the NHS IT system are perverse however you look at them.
I would say 50m tops including Accidentures 'fees'.

£50m?? not a chance in hell.... The hardware/infrastructure alone for the LSP I worked at cost in excess of £50m.

(Accidenture.. lol)

[pzz76077]

They look perverse unless one gets paid them in the process.

Those who got paid those ridiculous amounts via gravy train NHS contracts are likely to defend it, some of those who did not get to it, but would have liked to (having no moral qualms about taxpayer money waste) would also do so.

I would agree, then the perverse fees simply look obscene.


PZZ

[Mr.Whippy]

Those who got paid those ridiculous amounts via gravy train NHS contracts are likely to defend it

I wish I was paid ridiculous amounts when I worked on it, but I was just a poor overworked, underpaid permy back then.

[pzz76077]

£50m?? not a chance in hell.... The hardware/infrastructure alone for the LSP I worked at cost in excess of £50m.

(Accidenture.. lol)

Thats the problem, 50m for hardware etc - are you mad??
10m max

PZZ

[minestrone]

£50m?? not a chance in hell.... The hardware/infrastructure alone for the LSP I worked at cost in excess of £50m.

AtW can do the job with a few ubuntu servers and mysql in his bedsit.